Luna-3 and Glissada-N are optical landing systems, Luna is very similar to what the Amers have. For all-weather landings there is Rezistor-K, that’s the cylindric thing on top, just below the Fregat radar.
Anyone got any other pic of the Gorshkov model displayed at IMDS-2005???… not the half and front view thats been posted, but which have a full coverage of the deck?? …. also a pic which is shot from the starboard side wud be more than welcome.
Sorry, right now I found in my archive only this one. IIRC there was no picture from starboard side. The scheme in the background shows the extent of changes made in original design
For Blackcat: Is this picture real enough?
Gorshkov has 4 turbines TV-12-3 rated at 50k HP each. I don’t know if they have any relation to TV-12 turboprops installed on Tu-95 bomber, but each of them is rated at around 15k HP and if You multiply it by 3… 😎
here you go
Aren’t these boilers? Kotly in Russian :diablo:
“Training?”
Where will this extra “training” boiler end up?
I was assuming that it wouldn’t be installed deep in the bowels of the carrier. Did I assume wrong?
It will be a land-based training station.
This is for You, Blackcat :rolleyes:
The sixth and seventh 636M as well as first of Sovremenny’s were officially delivered to China on 28 December. Last Kilo will be delivered not later than 1 April, 2006 and Sovremenny should be delivered not later than 1 July, 2006.
Why 9 boilers?
To the best of knowledge, the Kiev class was originally built with 8 boilers?
Are the Russians reboilering the ship and then providing a “spare?”
9th is for training.
im not sure, but this migth be (or at least an impression of one) the projected Anchar class nuclear powered escort…
That’s even pre-Anchar project of AD ship from 1959 with Kolleopter VL SAM.
Did You get it from here:http://pvo.guns.ru/naval/nb_navy.htm?
I’m also sorry that I may have mixed You up. From the posts in Meteorit’s link it seems that 10200 and 11780 are rather contemporary rival projects and not an evolution. Do You need translation from Russian or You can read it Yourself?
Is this the page you were after: http://rfforces.net/viewtopic.php?t=1736&sid=63d8a6acdcadef4e63aabca5b751854e ?
As we are on the topic of cancelled Soviet carries, would anyone happen to have any information about the Pr.1199 and Pr.1293 projects? All I know is that they were intended as nuclear-powered Aegis-type escort destroyers for the Pr.1160 and possibly Pr.1143.7 (Ulyanovsk) carriers.
Yes, that’s it. I’ll check at GSPO site, if they have deleted the theme or just archived it, as the links to them doesn’t work and come back later, also regarding Your project numbers.
I’ve read opinion arguing that Pr.1941 was built in hull of unfinished Kirov class cruiser (Pr.1144). The reasoning was that Nikolaev slip was occupied all the time by 1143 class and Kapusta was also built in St.Peterburg by Baltisky Zavod as Kirov’s. In fact, there were two more Kirov cruisers started but they were never really laid down less launched. Kapusta has wider beam by 2.5m and is around 20m longer, it has different reactors and powerplant, so this version is also just another story from MiB.
That’s strange, I have quite a good set of pictures from IMDS-2003, including models of Kapusta and Slava, but no Halzan or 11780. Unfortunately, Pavlov’s book was not my own, so I will have to ask if it’s still available.
About pr.885 “Yasen” (“Severodvinsk”) and pr.955 “Borei”. 1 sub 885 class and 2 subs 955 are being built
Scan from Taras book?
Gollevainen, these are pics of 10200 Halzan ASW hel carrier, not of the 10780. Just compare these with the pics posted by TinWing and note where the island superstructure is situated on Your pics and where it is on 10780 pics.
10780 was designed in mid-80’s as a follow on to 1174, using also design elements of 10200 and 1143.4. Murena class LCACs were meant to be carried by 10780. As these ships were never built, already built Murenas were transferred to border guards. 11780 is mentioned in one of A.S.Pavlov’s naval referrence books in beginning of 1990’s as “Kremenchug” class UDK (Universalnij desantnij korablj). It’s appearance at some naval defence show is possibly linked to efforts to market it in China or India. Could You please find the name of that exhibition and year?
Unfortunately the link of Russian federation forces at rfforces.com is broken, so it may be that there are no more sources on 10200 and 11780 in the Web.