Nor did I appreciate this year, the use of the ‘F’ word over a public address system in reference to the meaning of ‘snafu’.
He’s got to go.
😮 Good grief that’s shocking!
Now I’m prone to a bit of industrial language myself, but to have that broadcast over a PA in front of families isn’t acceptable.
http://www.airshows.org.uk/calendar.html
Left side of the page: UK Airshow season month by month. 🙂
Vulcan now airborne from Doncaster.
Plan is to route to Farnborough for validation display and then on to Fairford to display and land.
Keep ’em peeled. 🙂
That’s correct, it didn’t leave Doncaster due to going u/s.
XH558 up and about again right now. Keep ’em peeled. 🙂
I honestly don’t know, but factors to bear in mind are airframe fatigue life, engine cycles and of course the critical issue of funding.
I really just try and enjoy every display I get to see, as you never really know whether you’ll ever get to see it airborne again.
So what’s the deal with the Vulcan now?
If they loose another engine is that it, or can they repair, source other engines?
They’ve got two engines left, but at this point I believe only one is cleared as usable.
There are no other 20201 engines available to use and the ones they have wont be overhauled. Once the engines are out of cycles, or there aren’t enough usable ones left to fly, then that’s it. Grounded.
Pictures of the Firefly incident seen on Hyperscale
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228830613900295.50474.100003200742943&type=3&l=8244cc6459
Some dramatic pictures, but I don’t go much on that ‘firetruck’ heading out to the Firefly’s aid. 😮
Just had the latest newsletter come through the email, which can be viewed online here:
http://mxm.mxmfb.com/rsps/wlnk/c/1216/r/16346/e/382
One point that stood out was this
The Aircraft Accident Investigation Branch has confirmed that, as the damage to the engines was contained, the incident is not reportable to them.
The statement seems pretty clear and unambiguous. Unless there is another way that these desiccant bags could have been ingested following their removal from the intake?
I think it’s safe to say that after what we’ve seen and read we’ve all probably logically come to the same conclusion, but until it’s officially down in black and white then it’s still speculation.
We’ve been told the engines ingested the silicon bags but little else, although like most I don’t seriously know how it could have happened any other way.
But not good enough rules to prevent this or adhered to with the consistency to avoid it.
Sadly that would seem to be the case, although the idea that a bag was left in the engine/intake is still all speculation on our part.
Whatever is ultimately confirmed to be the cause you’d hope some change of procedures will occur to ensure it can never happen again.
Assuming they do swap the two damaged units for the two “bagged” spares, every flight thereafter becomes “critical”, as they will have no more lives left.
That all depends if one or both of the engines removed for precautionary reasons are allowed back into service. If so, then there’s at least one spare available.
Is there a set and monitored procedure to ensure that silica bags are removed before engine start? If so where did the failure occur in that procedure? Are there fail safe’s to ensure things like that don’t happen?
I don’t know what procedures are in place, but TVOC work closely with the CAA, Marshalls and Rolls Royce, so I would imagine there’s a fairly good set of rules that they adhere to.
I have never worked in such an environment so I don’t know and I doubt that TVOC will be forthcoming with the answers.
TVOC WILL be forthcoming with the answers, but to the relevant authorities who actually need to know.
I’d hazard that Key forums and the myriad of other aviation websites probably aren’t in that list.
One thing I’ll say about the Vulcan ground crew though is that they’re all ex-RAF, so they’re not quite the amateur mugs some people seem to be making them out to be.
Hope they can come through this and the Vulcan continues to grace the skies.
I suppose that could explain the glass like stuff reportedly found on the runway.
Oops!
What is their spare engine situation?
I know they have spares, but are Olympus’ still overhaulable…or when they reach their time, that’s it?
TVOC had eight bagged and tagged zero timed engines for XH558.
Of the four that were originally put into the aircraft during the major, two were removed on advice from Rolls Royce for precautionary reasons and replaced, and two of the original remain in the aircraft.
They still have two bagged zero timed engines to use but it’s still publicly unknown whether the two that were removed will be allowed back into service at a future date.
I don’t think there’s any way to overhaul the Olympus now, at least not without it being prohibitively expensive.
i know the XL426 group have a couple of spare engines. I don’t know if they are airworthy of useable.
Unless they’re zero timed and with all the necessary paperwork then they’ll be unfit for use in XH558.
Seems two engines had problems. http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/352/82/Engine-Failure.html
Apparently left lots of debris on the runway that had to be cleared, so it doesn’t sound too good at all. 🙁
Thankfully it didn’t happen later during the take-off run or when in flight though.