Here we have 100772 (nee 18772), late of the EWU’s successor unit, 414EW “Black Knight” Sqn CF. I tried to get the scrappies to cut out one of the 414 crests from this hulk and save it for me but to no avail…
And another angle of 772. Sad end to an impressive machine.
One more to come…
…Wanting to see that anything that could be preserved was, I got in touch with Walter Soplata, whom I had met on a visit to his collection in summer 1982, to inform him of the Barrie Clunk hulks. Walter came up from Ohio a bit later in the year and loaded and took home what was left of 18775; the metals men got there about the same time and the other two hulks were smelted. Here’s another angle on 775.
And another angle…
775, check six…oops…too late. (The metals men are every bit as effective as a Sidewinder or similar, eh…):(
More to follow…
OK, going to do this in sections…tried it all in one go earlier but the system timed-out on me. The next 4-5 posts will show the Clunk Junk my dad and I saw in early 1983 while I was tracking surviving CF-100s. I had become aware of a scrap operation in Etobicoke (west Toronto) who were involved in breaking-up a batch of CF-100s stored at CFB Mountain View. This first pic was taken inside their warehouse on Advance Road in Etobicoke, and shows CF-100 landing gear and other bits. Parts of a Goblin engine were there too.
The guy (supposedly) in charge at Advance Road informed me of three CF-100s in a yard run by a relative of his in Barrie (a few miles north of Toronto); we decided to check those out too. Disappointingly they proved to be thoroughly mangled hulks. Here’s Mk.5C 18775 seen in the previous post, late of the RCAF Electronic Warfare Unit…
More to follow…
CF-BYJ was recovered from its west coast crash site many years ago, yes; the present news is about its being transferred as a project to the Shearwater Aviation Museum clear across the country on the east coast for restoration. I was very pleased to hear this, what with Shearwater’s track record on a Swordfish (albeit that was restored in Ontario for SAM) and an ex-Ethiopian Firefly. I hope they also find a way to trawl the Stran’s front end back up from the drink…
S.
Peter–
Aw, that would indeed have been a good thought…At least someone, whether on the RAF or CWH side, thought to spare the nose. Incidentally the cockpit was not quite completely gutted; as you probably know, the two M-B bang seats were left in place (I have a couple old slides showing them still inside the cockpit), and one, and probably both, survive in Ontario.
On hearing that CWH did not in fact want the nose (or the seats) because they were too “modern” (at the time), I quickly got in touch with Walt Soplata, who came up from Ohio and purchased the nose in early 1987. At about the same time, unknown to me, there was a gent in the Toronto area who’d wanted to buy the nose and make a sim display of it. Had I known about that I likely would not have called Walt…but either way, the nose still exists!
The CF-100 hulk was one of three ripped-asunder Mk.5s in the same scrapyard at the time. Walt got 775 at about the same time the guys from the smelter came for the other two. Pix of all three will be on here soon, stay tuned…
S.
Sorry if these are actually duplicates, but I don’t think I had them on P’bucket last time I posted to this thread…
Avro Canada CF-100 Mk.5C 18775, ex-RCAF Electronic Warfare Unit; partial hulk seen in a scrapyard in Barrie, Ontario, in early 1983, now in the collection of Walt Soplata in the USA.
HP Victor K.2 XL191 nose, ex-55 Sqn RAF; seen outside Hgr#4 at Mt.Hope, Ontario, in early 1987, now also in the Soplata collection.
S.
Wooo! Just barely this side of too thrilling…
Those aren’t tip vortices coming off “Argonaut” btw, she’s got a wingtip smoke system (Sanders Smokewinders), similar to what the R Neth AF F-16 demos used to use. That’s about the coolest-looking Warbird pass I’ve yet seen.
S.
“No budget”? Yep…that’s me, all right…:rolleyes:
In no particular order…
Sea Fury WG567/N878M (“Miss Merced”, ex-RCN)
Mustang 4 RCAF 9255 (Jack Hovey; ex-424 Aux Sqn RCAF)
Seafire XV PR503 (ex-RCN and CWH)
Beaufighter…any
Tempest II…any (restore with R3350 power and FLY IT!)
Mosquito…any
(But, since I’ve “no budget” indeed, the closest thing to a Warbird for me is a vintage car. Bought a ’62 Studebaker last fall. It’s now in storage. Wish it were spring again!)
S.
Mark–
Thanks for the correction on PR503; that was the one I had to look up, guess I looked it up in the wrong place! Any word on the progress of those two XV projects?
I think Courtesy Aircraft had a Sea Venom for sale a while back also. If so, it was doubtless a Fisk collection bird too.
S.
Tim–
Quite a few airframes from the former Polar Air Museum (Fisk/Amjet collection) were sold through Courtesy Aircraft in Illinois; off the top of my head (excepting that I had to look up the Seafire owner’s name):
EF-82E Twin Mustang 46-256/NACA 133, ex-Walter Soplata and David Arnold, to C&P Aviation (also at Anoka MN) for restoration to fly
Seafire XV PR503/N503PR, ex-CWH, to David Gouldsmith in Missouri for continuation of restoration (alongside ex-Burmese Seafire XV SR462)
Sea Fury T.20 “Dragon Of Cymru” (serial escapes me at the moment), sold through Courtesy and donated recently to RNHF at Yeovilton
Fury ISS project, Sea Hawk project (G-SEAH), Hunter two-seater (Singapore AF 500), sold through Courtesy about two years ago
Is the Shackleton AEW.2 “Mr McHenry” that was briefly operated cooperatively with the CAF? If so, it was flown from Midland, Texas, to Pima, Arizona, for static display at the Pima Air Museum this past month; some excellent photos of the Shack’s final engine run are online.
Cheers
S.
Hm, last logged in on BoB Day; now here I am on the 104th anniversary of the Wright Bros. most famous flight/72nd anniversary of the DC-3. I must have a thing for anniversaries…
Anyway, over here in Ontario there is a Nimrod MR.2 fin in a museum. Specifically, the Toronto Aerospace Museum at Downsview have, as a memorial, the fin from XV239, of 120 Squadron, which crashed into Lake Ontario during the 1995 Canadian International Air Show, the entire crew being lost. (I have to admit, even knowing the fin is a memorial, seeing it in the museum–and knowing immediately what it was–was a bit disquieting.)
S.
John–
Those are excellent pix of W1048.
An idea; could some sort of unobtrusive gantry be engineered to support W1048 in (visually) one piece with gear extended? As it is, she’s a rather haunting sight, but looks like a work in progress.
BTW, Peter’s right about Hali VII NA337 here in Ontario: it’s displayed not at CWH but at the National Museum of the RCAF (nee RCAF Memorial Museum) at CFB Trenton. CWH used to have a Halifax tail turret in storage, but that is as near as the Hamilton museum has come to a Halifax project.
S.
Being reported now that the aircraft was Hurricane II BD707. Of course the loss of the pilot makes that a “who-cares” detail. Terribly sad news.
S.
Cees–
Nearest I know of would be the Bloch twin that kept ex-Aeronavale Seafire III PP972 company in the yard at Gavres as late as about 1970. The Seafire, happily, escaped, and survives today…the Bloch didn’t, and doesn’t.:(
S.
Fun thread…and who knows where it could go…here are a couple more:
*”Toasted” XF2G-1 Corsair, winner of the 1949 Thompson Trophy (flown by Cook Cleland) and later used for firefighting practice, buried under a 50s runway extension at Cleveland airport
*War-prize Me262A, similarly buried at former RCAF Station Downsview
*HMCS York display/instructional airframes, one each Seafire XV and Swordfish II, deep-sixed in Toronto’s outer harbour (Lake Ontario) in the late fifties or early sixties
*Incomplete Brewster F2A often quoted as part of the Reinert/Polidori collection in Illinois; said lost in a garage/hangar fire in the late sixties
*AW Siskin IIIA stored in the Kingston (Ontario) armoury in the mid-forties
*P-51C, Jacqueline Cochran’s Bendix racer, said stored incomplete at Indio, California, in the seventies
*Avro CF-105 Mk.1 in a hangar at Groom Lake as late as 1966, once used as a lead-in trainer for the SR-71…:rolleyes: (OK, made that one up!)
The “bomber on the moon” would be the B-32 Dominator found parked in a crater and covered, complete with photos, in the very-recently-discontinued, but journalistically-unique, Weekly World News during the rag’s heyday back in the 80s. Given the atmospheric conditions (or complete lack thereof) on the moon, the B-32 should be in excellent condition, surely a prime candidate for recovery…:D
S.