Hi all–
Fun thread…Year or two ago at Willow Run, Michigan (Yankee AF show) there were a couple P-47Ds and Sandy Thomson’s as-yet-unpainted Sea Fury; at least one showgoer opined that the Fury was the most authentic of the P-47s because it had been left “original”!
Not exactly in the same vein, but at Mt.Hope in ’96 the Berlin Airlift group had their C-54 on static display with a mannequin of a “child from Berlin” near the exit steps; I watched with great amusement as a lady collided with the mannequin, turned, and politely apologized to it!
S.
Hi all–
The Great War Flying Museum has two S.E.5as, C-FQGM and C-GRJC. QGM is one of the scaled-down versions with the small flat-four engine; RJC, seen in Mike’s photo, is a beautiful and very convincing-looking fullsize SE originally powered with a re-geared Ford V6 and now, I’m told, with a Ranger six like the museum’s D.VII. Both SEs, the D.VII, the Nieuport 28 and the recently-completed Sopwith Strutter were at Niagara.
Mr Russell’s Messerschmitt (ex-David Price collection) isn’t a converted Hispano, but a restored Bf109E-4. Must say it was almost dreamlike, seeing and hearing the Emil in action…and reading the Canadian civil registration under the stabilizer. Not something I’d so much as hoped to see! BTW I have to concur that there’s just “something” about the Buchon, too. Wonder if we’ll ever see a Buchon (in EdA livery, of course) airborne at a show alongside the Emil…anything seems possible lately!
S.
Very sorry to hear of Mr Thomas’ passing. Every so often on one or the other of the Web fora there’s a “preservation hall-of-fame” thread, and Mr Thomas’ is always one of the first names mentioned. Had there been more like him, there’s no telling how much the richer we aerophiles would be for it…
Godspeed Mr Thomas and many thanks,
S.
Concentric flyby
I think it could…was wondering whether anyone would raise that idea and voila! there it is. Would be some trick synchronizing it, but that would be the way to go unless you simply wanted a “slow” formation and a “fast” one, withe the latter overtaking the former at show centre…
Was the Mossie missing from the DH list? In due course Jerry Yagen in Virginia will be operating the sole surviving Canadian-built FB.26 variant, now in work in NZ; and I’ve heard that the ex-Calgary B.35 may be headed to the UK, too.
S.
Hi–
That “house” is fantastic. I well remember being told about Tholthorpe by Roy Freckleton, one of the CWH Lanc rebuild crew who had flown from there with one of the 6 Group units. He would have been delighted, no doubt, to see the tower still standing and in obviously good shape. Sadly he passed away not long after the Lanc flew again. The last time I remember seeing him was at the public unveiling of the completed Lanc; he looked like he might explode from pride and delight…Thanx for sending me down memory lane a bit!
Cheers
Steve T
Hi Hatton–
Noticed your ref to art galleries; it may be of interest that both the Canada Aviation Museum (Ottawa) and the Toronto Aerospace Museum (up Keele Street at Downsview Park, which was the old RCAF Station/CFB Downsview) have displays of aviation art on this spring/summer. The CAvM showing is Artflight 2005 (theme “Northern Wings”), and opens Thursday, May 12; the TAM one is the Canadian Aviation Artists’ Association’s touring “Millennium Collection” and opened this past Saturday. Both collections also have Lancasters on site (CAvM’s is KB944, TAM’s is FM104 in the early stages of restoration after 35 years on a pylon beside Lake Ontario).
And this particular Canuck won’t grouse too terribly much about petrol prices…have heard what the stuff is going for in the UK. Geez–! 😮
Cheers
S.
Hi Peter–
Just took note of this…Looking forward to the news from Nanton. Been ten years this month since I was there; understand NLS have gone from strength to strength (and I was already plenty impressed a decade ago).
Coincidentally I saw FM159’s sistership FM104 yesterday during a short visit to TAM at Downsview. Will probably post a note about the visit…
Cheers
S.
Fun thread…
Avro Anson VP 12417/C-FHOT
Beech D18S Expeditor C-GZCE
Douglas DC-3-G202 C-GDAK ex NC21729
Fairchild 24R46 Argus C-FGZL
(the above four CWH’s)
Lockheed 10A CF-TCC (Air Canada’s, from Toronto Island)
NAA SNJ (I forget the N#–operating from MAAM, Reading PA)
Stearman Kaydet C-FFRF (operating obo CAvM from Rockcliffe)
…I’m sure they haven’t been preserved, but have flown on Air Ontario Convair 580s and Nationair DC-8-61s. One or two Air Canada DC-9s have actually been preserved; could have flown on one of those by chance as well…no way of knowing. One gets to appreciate some of those “ordinary” commercial flights more with the passage of time. Went up in a CC-130 Hercules once too, but that one’s still in CF service…
S.
CAvM Harrier
Found a recent CAvM collection listing, showing their AV-8A as BuNo 158966.
S.
Hi all–
Most of my stuff is 1:72, in several display cases in my loft. Three of the cases are “Canada-centric” with another being WWII international and early-postwar subjects. Canuck stuff includes Anson, Norseman, Lizzie, NA44 (the Cyclone-powered Harvard), couple P-40s, couple P-51s, couple Spits, Tiffy, Defiant, Fury, Mitchell, Hudson, Firefly, Sabre, Chipmunk etc. Also have a few diecasts and two 1:48ish Avro types, a CF-100 desktop promo made for Avro circa 1960 and a mahogany Arrow (which I got cheaply because it was in the Mid-Atlantic museum shop in Reading, Pennsylvania–the guy at the desk commented that they never sold these things until a Canadian arrived, then they were guaranteed to sell one!) Have a DHC Beaver made out of beer cans, too. The international stuff is an odd mix of things that took my fancy at one time or another: Fokker D.XXI; Yak-9D; He112; FW190A in Turkish markings; Tuskegee P-51C (an improvisation from before anyone made decals for those); Me109K; Fury prototype; Iraqi Fury; Belgian Spit XVIe; F-82G; A-1; F-51 in Guatemalan camo; Spanish T-6D etc. Toughest job was a 1:150 or so Martin P6M, reissue of a wretched old Revell kit from the 50s that probably has as much putty in it as plastic, but turned out OK and the original was a most impressive and advanced airplane. Current project, 99% complete, is a 1:72 diorama of part of the Walter Soplata collection in Ohio, based on photos I took 23 years ago. That involves eight models: BT-15 (kitbashed from parts of a Testors T-6G, an Academy P-40B and a Yak-40 airliner kit!); F2G (modified Matchbox F4U-4); F-82E; FG-1D; XAD-1 (modified Tsukuda AD-6); TB-25K (Matchbox B-25J); P-80A (Airfix F-80C); F7U-3. Fun stuff. Now to find somewhere to put the thing…Oh, and half my basement is full of unbuilt kits and unopened diecasts. Maybe I’ll eventually open a hobby shop.
Cheers
S.
Hi all–
One more museum Harrier not mentioned yet–the Canada Aviation Museum at Rockcliffe (Ottawa) ON has a very nice USMC-marked AV-8A on show, on longterm loan (iirc) from one of the major US museums. Can’t currently locate a pic that shows the BuNo on it though.
Ian–splendid job on that Harrier nose. Hardly ever see a project like that over here–more’s the pity!
Cheers
S.
Hi Marty et al–
Canada calling…and your ref to Charles Thompson caught my attention. I also know Charles, via his membership in the Canadian Aviation Artists’ Association (he belongs to ASAA too–I think he’s the only artist who is a member of all three organizations, or at least held that distinction recently). He often makes the trek to the CAAA conferences and does presentations at most of them…the treatment of light in paintings being a key topic most times, as has been mentioned. His 19 Sqn Spitfire Mk.I that was in the ’03 CAvM Artflight exhibition is still one of my all-time favourite works from those shows. Beautiful work.
I also belong to CAAA and have had paintings in Artflight occasionally, but view aviation art as a hobby (for now, anyway). Would like to post one or two of the better images here–I suspect there are quite a few brush-wielders on FP who could offer valuable appraisal–but in fact I’ve no way (yet) of doing so. I will, though, if I find a way! In the meantime–very pleased to see this topic crop up here, and look forward to further discussion.
Cheers
Steve Tournay
Hi all–weighing in from Canada, so teetering on the Yank/Brit fulcrum! :rolleyes:
In no particular order and certainly not an exhaustive list…just off the top of my head:
Peter Thomas
Bill Baird (and Walter Goldsmith)
Ed Maloney and family
Earl Reinert
Frank Tallman and Paul Mantz
Richard Shuttleworth
Cole Palen
Lloyd Nolen & co
Wes Agnew
Harry Whereatt
Stan and Byron Reynolds
David Tallichet
Ernie V. Simmons
Walter and Peggy Soplata
Gen Henry “Hap” Arnold (“save one of each”)
…and a bunch of others I haven’t happened to think of at the moment!
Cheers
Steve T
TJ et al–
Ted Hooton’s old “Spitfire Special” monograph also has a nice B&W ground shot of F.24 N7929A. No idea what the colours actually were but she was a beauty.
May have missed it but did John Paterson’s ex-COGEA NH188/CF-NUS get mentioned? She was in a sort of steel blue with white trim and the odd “bib” antiglare panel sometimes seen on COGEA Spits, and Paterson had added the 421 Sqn RCAF Indian head insignia (actually the McColl-Frontenac Oil Co logo) just ahead of the wingroots. Later she was painted (wildly inaccurately) in full 421 Sqn markings and is on show thus attired in the Canada Aviation Museum at Rockcliffe.
S.
Hi Mark–
I’ve been getting into modeling a bit more lately too after a break of several years (currently about three quarters of the way through a 1:72 diorama of a section of the Walter Soplata property as it was in the early 80s)…
Your styrene F-6B isn’t the cause for “alarm” you might initially think. F-6 was the designation for PR Mustangs, and unfortunately the letter suffixes do not, at least in the case of “B”, match those for the P-51 series: both the F-6A and the F-6B were the early Allison-engined version, while the PR variants of the B/C highback Merlin ‘stang were all designated F-6C (irrespective of which factory they came from–in contrast to the P-51B/C, which were both Merlin-engined and a B was a B because it came off the Inglewood line while a C was a C because it was built in Dallas)! Why? Who knows…The bubbletop F-6s did match the P-51s, though, an F-6D being a PR P-51D and an F-6K the PR version of the Dallas-built, differently-propellered P-51K.
The Malcolm hood on an F-6B was probably a field modification; I know that quite a few Bs, Cs and F-6Cs had the Spitfire-like canopy retrofitted, and indeed the improved visibility would be even more desirable for an Allison bird which would be operated predominantly at low level…
Cheers
Steve