Steve,
I have some photographs from 1952 of Wellington T.10 aircraft at Topcliffe from a Navigator under training.
Would you be interested in making contact as this is probably the last UK use of the Wellington
Regards
Dave Charles
Great stuff, reminds of the adverts you see in the back of old ‘Flight’ mags for demobbed aircraft.
A different era I know, but I grew up with the Shackleton Spares adverts in the back of mags, they seemed to have everything for British a/c (inc Shack nose cannons when I enquired!), anyone know who they were and what happened to them?
A bit on the background to the Company here
Even The Hunter?
Yes
From Wiki
Initially, low internal fuel capacity restricted the Hunter’s performance, giving it only a maximum flight endurance of about an hour.
Another difficulty encountered during the aircraft’s introduction was the occurrence of surging and stalling with the Avon engines. The F.2, which used the Armstrong-Siddeley Sapphire engine, did not suffer from this issue. Further problems occurred; ejected cannon ammunition links had a tendency to strike and damage the underside of the fuselage, and diverting the gas emitted by the cannon during firing was another necessary modification. The original split-flap airbrakes caused adverse changes in pitch trim and were quickly replaced by a single ventral airbrake. This meant, however, that the airbrake could not be used for landings.
However we are moving off topic, so back to the VC-10 please
My contact at Brize has told me that they are not going to be used in the passenger role at all and they will be pure tankers.
Phill
This was announced in the strategic Defense review.
As the support facilities now no longer exist at St Athan for the major and minor servicing the VC-10 will retire soon. Any extension is likely only to be for a few months rather than years. There will be a gap until the full Voyager fleet is delivered. The aircraft can not be that bad as it is already in service in Australia and has just been ordered by India. I am sure any problems with our fleet will be sorted
so four years after retiring the Victor they realized it had to be replaced??? Surely they would have known before…
Yes they did as this resulted is ASR415 & ASR416 for the conversion of 5 former BA Super VC-10’s and the fitting of pods to the transport VC-10’s.
When the Air Tanker deal was signed the VC-10 out of service date was 2017. However the involvement in Iraq, Bosnia, Libya and Afghanistan has used up airframe hours. To keep the VC-10 in service would require the signing of a new support contract which the Government will not want
something had to be done 20 years ago?
Hence the birth of the FSTA proposal which has become the Air Tanker started back in 1997
From Wiki
The need for a new fleet of air-to-air refuelling aircraft was first identified in 1997. The use of PFI rather than purchase was chosen in 2000. The FSTA will be a Private Finance Initiative (PFI) where the RAF will pay for aerial refuelling and air transport missions as required. The RAF will continue to retain responsibility for all military missions, whilst the contractor will own, manage and maintain the aircraft and also provide training facilities and some personnel. The private company will also be able to earn extra revenue by using aircraft for commercial operations when not required by the RAF — the most suitable of which would be leased air-refuelling missions for other European air forces. The RAF however will always have the “first call” on aircraft, being able to mobilise the entire fleet in times of crisis
VC-10 at Airshow
I wonder if this means we could see the old ‘VC’ at some air shows this year…?
I believe that RIAT has had confirmation of VC-10 to attend
http://www.airtattoo.com/airshow/Newsroom/news/RAF-DELIVERS-AIR-TATTOO-XMAS-GIFT
There is a Mk1 with Wells Reclamation in Somerset
http://www.bloodhoundmkii.org.uk/bh_relics_mk1.htm
The one at Cosford
Otterburn Targets
Pictures in the scrapyard thread
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1702192
Page 41 & 42 with permission of the HMVF
Is there a formal OSD for the T1s? Won’t the Reds continue to use them for the foreseeable future?
According to Hansard the OSD Date is 2020
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmhansrd/cm110524/text/110524w0002.htm
Hawk Aircraft
Angus Robertson: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence by what date he expects the T1 Hawk training aircraft to be retired. [55484]
Peter Luff: The Hawk T1 current planned out of service date is 2020. The aircraft is scheduled to cease its fast jet pilot training role at RAF Valley by December 2012, by which time it will have been replaced in this role by the Hawk T2 Advanced Jet Trainer. The Hawk T1 will continue to operate in other roles, including as part of the Royal Air Force aerobatic team.
The remains are indeed at Sproughton with Everetts
I don’t think so but he’s had several aircraft damaged by them.
(Has there ever been a Hurricane Kermit?)
Unlikely as I believe they are all given female names. So there is more chance of a Hurricane Miss Piggy
That looks like overall silver paint to me, admittedly with a blue cast?
DD
Behind the Spitfire is a Vampire T.11 in the standad Silver Scheme. When the image is enlarged the two are different so I think this is the blue colour on the spitfire
I’m imagining a similar blue to that used on Swift WK198, but look forward to seeing the photo!
A bit like this
http://www.ww2color.com/nennius/webapps/slides/slides.php?action=update&primary_key=01447