Think you are correct Martin P5M Marlin
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They probably were for show purposes as they are prominent in the publicity photographs taken in France in 1940 and are known to have been around in 1939.
If they were for show then my best guess would be either summer camp 1939 or Empire Air Day 1939.
I also have photographs from the same period that show standard flying suits
Correct it is a Westland Wapiti of 607 squadron over to you Blue Max or Beny Boy.
This is a good game but can be somewhat akin to the poisoned chalice
Difficult to keep up the standard as I am at work but here goes
If it is not the Slingsby SE-5a then is it one of the original F G Miles replicas
The black flying suits were certainly issued before departure to France as Harry Welford had one and did not go to France.
I very much doubt we will ever find any conclusive evidence of when they were issued, I have never seen them prior to issue of the Gladiator so it is possible they were issued when the squadron went on camp to Abbotsinch in 1939
Copy on MOD site here for 43 Squadron
http://www.raf.mod.uk/bob1940/h_images/43sqncrst.gif
and RAF crest here
http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/milestones-of-flight/images/1918/thumbs/raf_crest.jpg
The black flying suits were certainly in use by the time the squadron received Gladiators in 1938.
Somewhere I have a colour photograph of the flying suit that belonged to Flt Lt GHE Welford.
I believe that this suit is still in existence with his family in Devon.
I have not come across any reference to the squadron being known as the coalminers.
The only other unoffical name the squadron has used is the “Mountain Goats” which was used from 1951 when the squadron was equipped with Vampires.
This name refers to the squadrons return from call up at Thornaby when they returned to Ouston the airfield was under re-construction and was only considered to be suitable for Mountain Goats. Hence the name.
I will speak to some of my fellow squadron researchers to see if they can shed any light on the reference to the coal miners
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re BAPC-97
This was built during the second world war by a Mr Brown in Stanley, County Durham and has only been with Mr Brown until donated to the North East Aircraft Museum in the late 1970’s.
The aircraft was restored and refurbished by Ken Fern at Stoke on Trent and given the period registration of G-AFUG in the late 1990’s
So other than its trip to Stoke on Trent it has never been out of the North East
Try these, contact the photographer by e-mail they are usually happy to have their work used as long as it is credited
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=G-AZSC&distinct_entry=true
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=PH-SKK&distinct_entry=true
The aircraft are N-44914 with “56498” on the tail and is painted in Air Transport Command colours. The other is N-31356 with “44-42914” on the tail and is overall aluminimum with a read chevron.
From a previous thread as posted by Galdri in 2002 when the aircraft arrived
This has photos
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=55980&highlight=north+weald