What is the reasoning behind the move of the Lightning and F-100 outside. Surely this just makes more targets for the vandals ?
Try these links for some of Doug’s aircraft at Biggin Hill
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=66582&highlight=doug+arnold
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1274&highlight=doug+arnold+biggin+hill
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=28494&highlight=doug+arnold
Paraguay & Pakistan
As far as I am aware Paraguay never used the F-5. They were offered surplus aircraft from Taiwan but did not take up the offer. The cost of refurbishment and operation was considerd to be too high
I belive that there are some reports of the Pakistan operation of the F-5 during the 1971 war with India. These have been variously reported as being on loan from Jordan, Libya or Saudi Arabia. I believe it was a small number of aircraft if they ever went to Pakistan and have yet to see any confirmation of their operation.
No the Clarkson Lightning was XM172 which is now in the Lake District.
This one is in the grounds of Bentley Priory
I suspect this is the same aircraft as discussed in the attached thread
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=53202&highlight=whitley
This was previously on display at NEAM before moving to Aeroventure.
The museum had a full history of the aircraft in addition to photographs of the aircraft in service.
There is also a photograph on G-INFO the CAA web site
F-100 & Mystere at Lashenden
The two aircraft do not appear to be in too bad a condition
There are very recent photos here
Hunter in India
MarkG
The Hunter in India believed to be A968 might not be, see attached link
Several of the former Cornwal Aeropark exhibits survive
Whirlwind 9 XN258 and Widgeon G-APTW at NEAM Sunderland
Sycamore XJ917 Bristol Aero Collection, Kemble
Sea Venom XG691 Malta Aviation Museum
Sea Hawk WF299 Graham Revill, Birlingham, Worcestershire
Skyraider WV106, Wasp XT427 Fleet Air Arm Store
Whirlwind XA870 to HPG Doncaster
Scimitar XD332 Solent Sky
Dragonfly WG754 to Australian Naval Museum
Buccaneer XN967, Sea Vixen XN647, Canberra WK122, Sea Prince WF122 Sea Hawk XE368, Whirlwind XP350 processed by Pheonix Aviation many to Cockpit sections
I had dealings with Mr Cotton in the early 1990’s.
He had grand ideas which did not come to fruition and was quite enthusiastic. The collection started as the Stratford Aircraft Collection but did not last long as it was overstretched financially. These are the aircraft which now belong to the landowner.
Also amongst the collection were eight engines from Flambards. These were rescued by myself on behalf of Flambards during my time as chairman at the North East Aircraft Museum. The engines were subsequently sold to NEAM (Double Mamba, Avon, Gyron Junior), Newark (Derwent), S Yorks(Avon), East Mids (Leonides) and Long Marston (Leonides), The Aeroplane Collection (Double Mamba) all for a modest sum including delivery.
It was quite a trip with the engines being collected from Long Marston and dropped of at East Mids, Newark and South Yorks on the way back to NEAM.
Each engine was sold for a modest sum of £200
Just for the record the collection was started by David Cotton.
Apoligies to Benyboy it was Bomberboy
As far as I am aware there are actually three different owners involved with the aircraft at Long Marston
The landowner owns the Shackleton, Canberra, Whirlwind Dove and Sea Prince
The Hunters and Venom are owned by Staurt and his father
The Meteor and at least one other aircraft are owned by another enthusiast.
The collection has struggled with limited support.
Like many collections it has also fallen victim to changes in family circumstances.
Like DaveT I have known Stuart for many years and can understand his desire not to part with the aircraft even though his can spend little time attending to them. It took Stuart many years to assemble what he has and I am sure that he is dissapointed that the collection has not progressed for a number of years.
I fail to understand the comment by Bennyboy refering to David B which I assume to be David Burke.
David has done more than most to assist the movement of airframes into preservation. During my 25 years of involvement in aviation preservation (albeit the last six have been from my armchair) I have seen many groups have problems with lack of support.
Please do not criticise from the sidelines become active and help stop the rot
Misha is quite right that it is unfair to be too critical of the management.
With limited resources, priorities have to be set and the main priority for a number of years was to provide undercover accomodation for the majority of the collection. This entailed raising in excess of £100,000 and managing the project whilist carrying out full time jobs. After all the management are also volunteers.
XL319 sits six miles from the sea and would have required several repaints during the 24 years it has been in the museum. The funds for this simply did not exist after the arrival of the aircraft and I suspect are unlikely to exist to support any major work.
Let us be grateful that we have enjoyed the sight of these aircraft for nearly 25 years due to a few dedicated enthusiasts rather than them ending up as coke cans on retirement. Of those that were flown into museum’s we have been fortunate to loose only a very small number.
I can well remember a particularly critical article in the aviation press in 1983 that predicted that they would only last a few years and that the money spent on their acquisition was a complete waste.
I would encourage more people to become involved in museum’s such as NEAM as the more members there are the less frequently the turn will come to do the admin rather than work on the aircraft.
There were actually three Vulcans flown into Catterick IIRC. They were covered on the local news as they had to shut the main A1 road. So we may be lucky someone somewhere may have them on Video.
XL319 was looked after by James Caruthers who also had a web site
http://www.vforce.co.uk/index_content.htm which is no longer active
James was still at school during his time looking after XL319 he subsequently went to University. This unfortunately limited his time looking after XL319.