How the hell was the above post edited in 1970? 50 years before originally posted and long before the internet existed.
No, really. I think it was something along the lines of “bazadaaabaaashooooooo”. Onomatapeic (is that a word?) as hell. I thought the engine story to be far fetched, like trying to put a cylinder off a moto guzzi on a vincent so I researched it myself and hit the alfa romeo / bristol connection and passed the info on to Nick who was most interested, though he said no one had ever raised an eyebrow at the story.
Merlin, not browning.
Nick actually told an interesting story of how his walrus went sick over the med and seeing an island nearby he landed and taxied up the beach. A fitter came out on another shagbat and having seen a crashed italian bomber on the island, walked off with some tools to return with a cylinder under his arm which he bolted onto the walrus and Nick flew it out!
One bomb left and the dam still standing, “Use the force Guy”.
Occurs to me that Jackson has made his name in the multi part film series stuff. This could well bring along a film of 617s later exploits, or two. After all, so much of the infrastructure of the dambusters film would be readily applicable to a sequel. The Tirpitz campaign anyone?
I very much look forward to seeing this film but the dog thing could easily become the story as far as the grunting and pointing classes are concerned. Be easy to write the dog out completely, it’s not as if it’s a central character. And the codeword, it would be better to write that out of the screenplay too. I would hate to see the appearance of a squadron of Lancs on the big screen overshadowed in media coverage because of a bunch of pedantic throwbacks loudly announcing to all within earshot “Bloody PC, the dog’s real name was N…)
No reason to have the dog in the film, no need to have the codeword mentioned, just sidestep the whole thing and tell a human story.
Who on earth would consider Apollo 11 the ” first real controlled space flight “? Did Gemini 6 and 7 just happen to run into each other? Did Gemini 8 collide with the Agena target by accident? Every space flight has been properly controlled. Even Apollo 13 came down right where it was supposed to. 13 did of course temporarily lose control as did Gemini 8, both due to major malfunction but in both cases the pilot regained control.
What an interesting thread.
I thought it was the aircraft we were discussing, not the acting, screenplay or whatever. The Lincolns were parked in the background in some of the ground scenes. As I said, who notices?
I think the further away from the real events, the more inaccuracy crept in. 633 sqn got it bang on of course, awful model in “Battle of the river plate” BUT IT WAS A PRESENTABLE SEAFOX, Lincolns in “The dambusters” but who notices? They had to get it right because so many of the audience were there. Then we got to later times and Buchons for Me 109s and pointy tails chasing griffons down the field in BoB scrambles. I think the best model sequence I saw was the crash scene in “Memphis bell”, that may have been the pinnacle of accuracy in real aircraft and model mix. Now, anything you want. You want Jesus astride a Saturn V? No problem. I think part of the problem is that the artists depict the aircraft as models. We have all seen models with forced shading, panel lines and weathering that gives a brilliant scale effect but if applied to the full scale aircraft would look ridiculous. So the cgi aircraft look like models!
Take your artwork to a printer on USB and ask him to put it on colour transparency. Lay the transparency over a piece of white plastic card from your local model shop and Bob’s your uncle. Takes backlight well too.
The F4 still looks dangerous doesn’t she.
Concorde.
And Vulcan cannon.
I’m not falling into any trap, just raising the fact that the movement of arms doesn’t have to be legal and above board and nicely documented and recorded. On the subject of obsolescence, both the French air force and the air component of the BEF had fighters in 1940 when the Stuka was staggeringly successful. Ground forces without a standing CAP would as you say be vulnerable to just about any attacking aircraft including the Ju 87.