Fair enough. There should definitely be a standardized price quotation, regardless of the aircraft. As it is today, a particular price being quoted by industry might not even include the cockpit!! And nobody in public would ever know this until after the fact – God bless us all.
Maybe someone can take a peek into the USN budget. Anyway, I checked out the contractual history on the APG-79. It appears Boeing as the Primary Contractor was responsible for purchasing the radar for all new-build SHs and entered into subcontracts with Raytheon accordingly.
The DoD also entered into purchase contracts directly with Raytheon for APG-79s but these were radar units that were intended to be retrofitted into existing aircraft already in the inventory.
Pending any credible document to the contrary, I’m inclined to assume that Boeing’s price for the new batch of SH/Growlers includes the APG-79.
Did you miss the fact that the engines & radar aren’t part of the contract?
Yes, its pretty clear the engines are excluded. Couldn’t find the reference to the AESA however.
GE quoted the lowest price and possibly will only require minimum modification as compared to Eurojet.
Obama visit may be huge.
I recall reading that Boeing was offering the F414EPE in its bid. Was the bid for the Tejas engine the plain vanilla F414 or the EPE variant?
The APY-1 and APY-2 on the E-3s rotates at 6 RPM when the radar is in use, so it scans every 10 seconds not 20-40. In 10 seconds a target moving about Mach 3 at sea level would go about 6 miles.
As far as it goes, fixed phased-array radars are also limited in that their range and resolution drops when the beam angle exceeds about 45-60 degrees from the perpendicular. The Phalcon 707 in particular has a field of view of about 120 degrees with its side arrays, and uses smaller, lower-performance arrays in the nose and tail to cover the blind spots.
Probably the best solution is one like the E-2D, which uses a rotating AESA. This provides the same uninterrupted 360 degree coverage as the E-3, but the rotation can be stopped to focus the radar on a particular sector if more range / resolution is needed.
Thanks for the clarification.. 6 rpm is correct so its not really that big a deal, specially if the radar see out to 200 miles or so, same as the AESA. And yes, the E-2D looks to be a very capable system.
That’s a lot of money going into upgrades of the BUFF’s weapon systems. I wonder what kind of new weapons its destined to get?
It’s fitted to an external fuel tank! How can that be part of the aircraft? The tank isn’t.
ATFLIR is considered standard kit on the jet though it is an external pod. I’m not sure if the IRST capability is in the same category.
http://www.deagel.com/Navigation-and-Targeting-Systems/ANASQ-228-ATFLIR_a001647001.aspx
Each production F/A-18E/F Super Hornet will be delivered to the US Navy with an ATFLIR pod installed.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/atflir.htm
The ATFLIR acquisition strategy was to award a sole source EMD contract for the development, fabrication, test and integration of the ATFLIR into the F/A-18 C/D and E/F aircraft weapon systems. McDonnell Douglas Corporation (MDC), a wholly owned subsidiary of The Boeing Company, as the sole designer, developer, and manufacturer of the F/A-18 aircraft weapon systems had the requisite knowledge, experience and technical data required to successfully complete the complex integration of the ATFLIR into the F/A-18 C/D and E/F aircraft weapon system in the time required. Accordingly the government selected MDC to provide the integrated ATFLIR capability as contractor furnished equipment.
Of course everything has a cost.
OK, I believe the ATFLIR pod is a standard feature on all SHs. Is its cost built -in or must it be added on? Really, what I really wanted to know is what comprises government-supplied equipment and which is built into boeing’s price. It would help quantify the true cost of the aircraft.
Aside from the engines, what else is excluded from the Boeing price?
Is the IRST system mounted on the centerline tank an additional cost?
Any other add-ons to the SH/Growler?
… and that his enemies were sitting in fragile machines without armor or self-sealing tanks.
Those fragile machines without armor and self-sealing tanks did a pretty good job of dominating early on on the war. In the hands of experienced pilots, they were deadly.
Successful aces were accurate shooters, not necessarily phenomenal pilots. It was always that way, since WW1 pilots talk about exactly the same thing.
I just watched a documentary on the P-38 Lightning. Richard Bong who would eventually wind up with 40 kills to be the top US Ace admitted he was not a very good shot. He actually enrolled in gunnery school when he returned to the US on leave. By then he had racked up some 21 kills IIRC. It probably helped that the P-38 had tremendous firepower right in front of his cockpit.
The UAE is holding the cards and we may see how desperate the french are to close a sale.
So if they decide to make TopGun2, the hero would have to fly the SuperHornet… not quite the same sex appeal as the mighty Tomcat.
The US is putting in place resources and technology that will enable it to better respond to future threats. Don’t make the mistake of assuming that your opponent will always act rationally when history has proven time and again that the opposite is true and millions have died as a result. An enemy may have a totally different appreciation of risks involved in any military action and act accordingly.
You hope for the best but plan for the worst. If spending on new capabilities helps deter aggression, then it is money well spent. And if the hostilities actually do break out, you’ll have the tools at hand to get the job done. I find it hard to believe that the US would ever consider the first use of nukes to defend Taiwan.
One can see why the US is putting a lot of money into long-range strike capability. Hypersonic platforms and weapons will also greatly ensure shorter response times if the need arises.