Could the Sentinals possibly be re-roled into an MPA or fisheries protection type role?
OK it wouldn’t need half the ISTAR kit it has now, but, could it be used for sea search (Long Range SAR) and then communications relay/top cover for SAR operations?
Perhaps even keep as much of the internals as possible, Have the RAF fly it, and perhaps mission commander, with the other seats filled by coasties/reservists but loaned out (operating costs) to the Coasties?
Does Scotland, a tiny part of the UK, really need such a disproportionately large number of frontline fighter/strike aircraft? Looks more like a Labour jobs programme to win votes for the Scottish pair Brown and Blair.
RAF Leuchars
6 Sqn – Eurofighter
111(F) Sqn – Tornado F3RAF Lossiemouth
12(B) Sqn – Tornado GR4
14 Sqn – Tornado GR4
15 Sqn – Tornado GR4
617 Sqn – Tornado GR4111(F) is going soon, so that will be 5 squadrons just for Scotland, with 5 million people!
The rest of the Country (the other ~55 million people):
3 Sqn – Eurofighter
11 Sqn – Eurofighter
1 Sqn – Harrier
2 Sqn – Tornado GR4
4 Sqn – Harrier
9 Sqn – Tornado GR4
31 Sqn – Tornado GR4
17 Sqn – Eurofighter
20 Sqn – Eurofighter
29 Sqn – Eurofighter
41 Sqn – Harrier* Squadrons taken from the RAF website, yes, I know, its often out of date, and the people who sit at the end of runways with airband radios and a laptop noting down the tail numbers can probably give you more accurate figures.
Scotland that “tiny part of the UK” makes up almost one third of the UK landmass, and last time I checked covered the entire North of the UK.
So lets look at your argument again.
1/3 of UK = 5 Squadron
2/3 of UK = 10 or 11 Squadrons
Looks perfectly in proportion to me, and that’s not a political view, it would be my laymans interpretation of strategic spreading out assets
I’d guess that the agreed price would be based on number of aircraft bought, this would be combined Navy and AAC.
To pull the AAC aircraft from the deal would no doubt increase the unit costs of the Navy birds.
1. Why are both the Chinook and Merlin (non-Navy) needed? Do their capabilities and roles not overlap?
Try doing this with a Merlin….
I think they need to rip up all current Helicopter plans, sit down and come up with a proper, cohesive programme. The Puma upgrade makes little sence, The knee jerk order for Chinooks will not deliver in time for Afghanistan and the Wildcat (army variant) fills a role the is historical rather than needed. The UK has always operated mainly medium/heavy helicopters in the ransport role and its doctrine does not follow that of nations like the US.
The Naval Wildcat does has a role to play especially if the Navy begins to operate lighter vessels, and is ideal for litorial operations, so the order for these should be retained.
For transport, the RAF should only purchase atrition replacements for the Chinook now but make sure the upgrade programme is fully funded to bring existing platforms up to the same standard. The RAF should retain its Merlins with minimum work carried out to make them available to operate for naval platfroms if a surge is required. Around 20 new Merlins built specifically for the RN should be purchased with polding rotor and tails with between 4-6 additional platforms pruchased if chosed for MASC.
the Lynx AH-7, Gazelle and Puma should all be finally retired over the next 3-4 years, with the Lynx AH-9A further modified for SF duties if the need exists. The Sea King HC4 should be able to be retired before 2015 as well if an order for the additional Merlins is placed promptly. This will mean the AAC is reduced by almost 50% and the RAF helicopter force by about 15%.
If after 2015 and the withdrawl from Afghanistan there is a need for a Medium Helicopter then a programme should be initiated, or additional buy of Merlin or Chinook. I have not listed a light/Utility platform as I believe its recce role is carried out by UAVs nowadays and the AH-9A with upgraded avionics could fullfil this role in the immediate future if neccessary. again if this capability is needed post 20105 and Afghanistan then it should be revisited.
I’d go along with that, and add additional Merlins for the SAR role to be operated by the Maritime agency/Coastguard. Their maintenance needs can be covered by the AW/RAF existing maintenance scheme. More airframes bought = better deal on maintenance = funded by MOD and MCA
Cosford also has a Mig-15, as does East Fortune and I think there is one at The Norfolk & Suffolk Museum
To correct this post,
East Fortune has a Czech built version of the Mig 15 called the Letov S-103
It also has a cockpit section of a Polish built version of the Mig 15UTi, this isn’t on display due to space constraints.
It’s an A-4 Skyhawk
:eek:With missile under wing:eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYWzcRINg2s&fmt=18
Novice pilot or aircraft in trouble? Too much speed for landing and no go around. Ran out of fuel? Engine flameout?
It’s in a clean configuration that thing should flaps and spoilers like barn doors hanging down, so perhaps a hydraulics issue
Do it by train every year.
Sure you may have a wait at the station on the way out, but if you use the time to take a walk down the static line again, you can get some nice shots in the evening light, before heading to the station where the worst of the crowds have squashed themselves away onto the first trains already.
If memory serves me correctly when you see what looks like a stunted telegraph pole with a dayglo orange roof on the top that marks where the pipeline travels.
Correct a white painted pole about 5 feet high with dayglow orange “roof”.
Usually within a few feet of it there is a “headstone” with a plaque indicating either it’s purpose …coded like the letters on the back of tanker trucks, or like the one near where I live the company name and a warning not to excavate 50 metres either side of the the marker, due to a high pressure pipeline.
I live near the Ineos owned main pipeline that runs south from Grangemouth.
Sadley the Reds lost their sparkle to airshow regulars a long time ago. Yes the General public on a day out, ooh and Ahh but to be honest it’s the only time they see a large formation of any type.
When seen in comparison to the French or Italian teams, there is very liitlethat some across as daring or inovative.
Sure the Hawk can’t twinkle roll but there must be new manouvers out there that can be performed. Perhps it’s time to get rid of the 5-4 and 7-2 splits and go for different numbered groupings throughout the display.
That would be the Ayres Lodemaster
two 1,200 hp LHTEC CTP800 turboshaft engines driving a single, 13-foot diameter Hamilton Standard prop through a combination gearbox manufacturer by Allison Engine Company
from this source
Slightly off topic, but at the same time related to the CATOBAR discussions.
With CATOBAR one of the benefits that keep coming up is the use of Hawkeye.
Is the production line on Hawkeye actually still open for new aircraft and at what costs?
I’ve seen references to the new Advanced Hawkeye (E-2D) which is apparently baselined on the Hawkeye 2000 (E-2C), are these conversions or completely new builds, and given that they have the latest APY9 AESA Radar, would that be released to the UK without the usual software release “discussions”
Also, the UK view is that one of the key advantages of STOVL aircraft like the F-35B is that they can operate from carriers in sea conditions that would prevent CATOBAR aircraft from taking off or landing. (True?)
If it’s true that they are going to adopt the Rolling landing at overshoot speeds (mentioned either in this or other threads…I’ve lost track) then I don’t see too much difference as they are still going to have to fly a mirror (the Ball) approach onto the deck in heavy seas.
This compares obviously with the Harrier technique of bring it along side, matching speeds and then moving across on to the deck from the side and lowering it onto its spot.
I have to say that I was surprised how close in cargo box size the C27J is the the C-130. THough I appreciate that other factors mean they are in different classes of lifting.
A small number of a C295/cn235 type would probably be of great use in the MOD, especially if it’s a combined order for basic cargo, some MPA and possibly to increase the order numbers and bring down the overall cost, fisheries and Coastguard versions to be operated by the MCA (Maritime and Coastguad agency).
As for what they’d do, how about as other’s have mentioned a step trainer from King Air into A400m, special forces uses, parachute training (if any survive the SDSR), provide a stay at home MPA whilst any Nimrods that remain can do their long range thing. All in addition to short hop cargo lifts that currently require a Herc.
The Fisheries/Coastguard aircraft take over longer range search and flying command post /radio relay of Nimrod, in addition to consolidating the rather fragmented fisheries protection and monitoring roles being carried out by a variety of types under contracts around the UK.