Dear Gawd, that dreamlifter is Fugly.
Superb shots, I particularly like the ones with the hills as a backdrop.
We need a national aviation museum based in London, comprising of the Science Museum’s collection of aircraft, add one aircraft from each aviation museum from around the UK, and aircraft that might end up being scrapped if they don’t otherwise find a home inside. Add Concorde (Heathrow), Britannia (Cosford), Comet and Trident (Wroughton) and we’d end up with a museum to rival thre NASM in Washington DC. Will it happen? Yer right. Firstly the RAF Museum would kick up a fuss, because it would take custom away from Hendon. Land prices in London would be horrific. The Dome might have worked as would one of the arenas at the Olympic village …. Some may argue that AirSpace does the trick. I have my doubts. A national museum on aviation has to be in London to attract the visitor numbers in order to prove we were once brilliant at designing and building aircraft.
That concept sounds great but I don’t agree that it should be in London. Such a site should be somewhere in the middle of the UK as this would reflect the fact that Britain’s aviation heritage covers the whole country.
I agree about the use of UAVs for ISTAR, but they have yet to prove themselves fully suitable of taking on the AEW role. In terms of V-22s, they would most likely cost the same as, or more than, the E-2 Hawkeye, and have less capability. They are attractive only in sofar as they are much better than continuing to rely on helicopters, and the ability to recycle the Searchwater radar systems.
Excuse my picking up on just this one point which in a way doesn’t actually relate to the CVF.
Why do you say that a V22(AEW) would have far less capability than an E2 Hawkeye? Wouldn’t it be dependant on the radar and technology fitted?
Quite a surprise for me:
AS365N-3 Dauphin II of Malaysian Coast Guard
I wonder when the Malaysians got those
They apparently now have 3, the first 2 in August with the third delivered in the last week or so. The article is from a link dated 27/11/07
http://www.eurocopter.com/publications/FO/scripts/newsFO_complet.php?lang=EN&news_id=520
3(Air Defence), 11(Multi Role), 17(R) Op-Eval, and 29(R) OCU are all based at Conningsby at the moment.
Leuchars is being upgraded for Typhoon, though last I heard 43 and 111 were to be the last to receive the “Air Defence Version”.
What becomes of 56(R) currently the Tornado F3 OCU at Leuchars is unclear.
Is Leeming being upgraded? if not then 25 Sqn if converted to Typhoon could end up at Leuchars
Field commanders are funny guys. They would rather have pinpoint fire support available right now than have a promise it will arrive in a few minutes. Close-in targets are handled with Javelin and SMAW. A battery of mortars or HIMARS deployed with and under the direct command of the MAGTF is preferable to a dozen squadrons of F-35s floating at sea a couple hundred miles away. If your F-35 support has to fly hundreds of miles to support your Marines’ fighting position, you don’t care if the flew from a CVN or LHD, but you do care if the ammo, food and water your Marines need to continue the fight arrives on time via Vertrep.
As far as CAS goes, a B-1 with a belly full of JDAMs and active datalink provides great CAS, and it doesn’t have nearby basing issues.
Hang on a second, in a previous post you put forward that the USMC is moving towards a littoral operations with it’s new AAAV.
Well 2 minutes with Google and the AAAV has a range of about 25 miles, therefore the LHD/LHAs would be that distance away not hundreds of miles.
So F35Bs flying from them would not only have a short launch to target time but also a huge loiter time in the area, something the commander of the MAGTF would be thankful for. Rather than as you say the F35C having to travel hundreds of miles for one pass and Bingo fuel.
As for a B-1 doing CAS, a position would be overrun by the time a sortie was organised and flow into the area. And even then a JDAM might be a hammer to crack a nut.
The RN also really liked the E2000 Hawkeye they looked at a few years back at the Farnborough airshow, it met all their AEW replacement needs and I think it was also what kicked off the RN’s look at CTOL operations again.
Wasn’t there a mock up/proposal for a V22 based AEW system?
Sure the USMC will play peacetime games with F-35Bs flying from LHD/LHAs, but with bullets flying and a limited number of flight decks available, the 1st priority has to be Vertrep of marines on the ground. Let CAS come from HIMARS firing GMLRS (deployed with the Marine invaders) and CVN-based F-35Cs or USAF(as a last resort).
CAS…Close Air Support, can’t by it’s very description be provided by a self deployable missile artillery system, not least because it would require an established beach-head/controlled area. Also and I could be wrong I doubt it would be much use when the distance is to the enemy is measured in metres/yards rather than kms/miles.
As for the CVN, I suspect that the Navy and Marine F35C models would be busy doing their own thing such as “deep strike” and CAP to launch specific CAS missions.
The USAF might be out of reach for CAS too.
It would be folly not to operate B-Models from the LDH/LDAs in a combat scenario.
Wouldn’t it be cheaper to take the C-model and just make the carrier a bit bigger? An exclusive model for UK is indeed stupid.
The B-model isn’t an exclusively UK model. The USMC are loking to replace their Harriers and early model Hornets with it.
The C-Model could replace their Hornets no problem, but the Harrier operates off the Wasp and Tarawa class LHD and LHAs respectively. These don’t have Cat and Trap facilities making the B-Model their only option.
RAF Spadeadam is listed twice…Cumbria correctly
You really should quote the next paragraph to, since that offers an answer to your post….
The issue appears to have been solved with Britain, the only JSF Tier I partner, by a bilateral Memorandum of Understanding, signed at the end of 2006 for the JSF’s second phase. This document, which has not been made public, includes a highly classified supplement that details assurances given by the US to the British government, and which deals with the issues of operational sovereignty, incoming UK Defence Procurement Minister Baroness Taylor of Bolton told the Commons Defence Committee during Nov. 21 hearings.
Without going off in the way some of the previous posters have, doesn’t the phrase
The purpose of the Delta SDD is to develop a version of the JSF Air System that meets U.S. National Disclosure Policy, but remains common to the U.S. Air System, where possible.
A possible interpretation of this remembering that it refers to the “Air system” not just the aircraft, would be that Foreign models won’t be for example…
wired for a new (currently black listed) missile.
have the plumbing for a new (currently black listed) sensor pod that would hang from a hard point on most aircraft could be internally carried on a JSF.
Items that are developed outwith the JSF program that the USAF want’s integrated ASAP to their aircraft but may become available later in upgrades to foreign aircraft.
If you look at this link, profile #37 depicts a Stratocruiser in the current BA livery – yuck! The FedEx and SAS Il-76s look better, I think!
OFF TOPIC
I love that site, the EPTS schemes on the TSR2, Spit MkXIV, A10 and SU-30MK look brilliant.
The image of the A10 in Israeli colours must send chills around some parts of the Middle East.
So the Pumas have to wait another 7 or 8 months for someone to decide that yes they can be upgraded or no it’ll be cheaper to buy new.
Then there will be several months of political debate before a contract is actually signed either for new or rebuilds
Then there is the lead time before work starts on the first helicopter, with the final one being several more years down the line.
Why wasn’t this process started years ago !!!
Oh yeah and for the upgrading process to be cost effective, 4 or 5 Pumas need to be withdrawn from active service and worked on at the same time….all this without any sign of replacement/fill in helicopters.