Who needs enemies when skits like this are being shown and giving a totally false impression of the capabilities and importance of both the CVF and JSF.
That Bastian of all knowledge (even if some of it is wrong) mentions Israel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_Dhruv
But I suspect someone got their IAFs in a twist when reference was to Indian Air Force.
Don’t know about the French, but the RN are looking and indeed have already begun practising for a true battle Group deployment whenever the CVF sails.
I read somewhere the other day that a RN destroyer is joining and being fully integrated into a US battle Group for the first time in anticpation of this.
With a battle group surrounding a CVF there will be other ships with Marine contingents which basically means that the CVF won’t actually have to have that many on-board.
I know MoD does NOT usually “think out of the box”, but what about the HAL Dhruv with the uprated Shakti engines for use in hot & high conditions (Afghanistan +/- Iraq)?
The Dhruv was specifically developed for use in high-altitude settings, where some other choppers are less comfortable.
I’ll bet the Dhruv is a lot cheaper than the other options above. VfM for UK taxpayers – a novelty!
If the Dhruv is good enough for India & Israel, I think it is worthy of consideration.
What role would the RAF use a 5.5 ton class HAL Dhruv, it’s manufacture claims 4-12 troops, which to me sounds like 6 or perhaps 8 fully loaded troops.
That would be too big for a Gazelle in the light utility role, and not big enough as a Puma replacement.
They’ve tested Starstreak on Apaches …
Starstreak is essentially a Ground to air weapon, in which the stationary operator only has to consider from his/her POV a 2D battlespace.
Mounting the laser designator on an aircraft moving in 3D while tracking a target in 3D is much more of a challenge which is why after 10 years in development the AAM varient hasn’t come to fruition.
Wouldn’t the practicalities of keeping a laser gimbol on target while the parent aircraft itself is having to avoid possible incoming missiles make this system unworkable.
The RAF list the Puma as capable of carrying 16 troops
(source: Sikorsky website)
Maybe in the days before all the extra kit was added and without considering Hot ‘n High conditions, but 16 is a dream for today’s RAF Puma’s.
You misquoted me slightly, the Puma figure is from the RAF website, the Sikorsky website was the source of the S92 info.
The EC635/LUH might be a reasonable replacement for the Gazelle, but given how it’s used these days, might new build Fennecs fill the role more cost effectively.
The RAF list the Puma as capable of carrying 16 troops
From the AgustaWestland website
The Super Lynx300 has a capability of 9 troops
the AW149 has a capability of 14 troops
the NH90 has a capability of 20 troops
Buy the AW149 and there will be calls of it doesn’t do what the Puma was capable of.
Buy the NH90 and even in the posts above there has been comment oif it being too big to replace the Puma.
The wildcard Sikorsky S92 Military version is listed at 19 troops in standard fit (source: Sikorsky website)
WP wrote
Huh? Have I missed something? The Merlin isn’t replacing the Sea King in the RAF. The contract will probably be announced during 2009 after competition and probably go part private.
http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mcga-hmcg_rescue/mcga-hmcg-sar/dops_-_sar_helo_harmonisation.htm
Perhaps WP was refering to the Seaking commando for the Marines?
With regard to SAR, MOD/MCA owned but privately operated Merlin/Cormorants such as those that fly in Canada would be handy bits of kit.
Added to that the MOD/AgustaWestland Merlin support centre (I can’t remember it’s correct name) that was announced a while back to support Merlins over the next however many years.
Would that make too much sense
I must admit the though of a Puma replacement did cross my mind after the tragedy the other day (and yes I know at this point it’s not known what caused the crash).
It’s clear that the UK finds itself in a situation that even if politicians managed to extract the digit, the lead time on any new orders makes them laughable…case in point having to buy the already built Danish Merlins.
In view of a long term replacement of the Puma I suppose the options are more Merlins seems logical, the NH90 or a military AW149 all from AgustaWestland, Sikorsky’s S92 (HM Coast Guard has just brought civvy version on stream), Perhaps even more Chinooks – just don’t mention the digital cockpits.
One thing is clear, these aircraft what ever they are need to get ordered “yesterday” oh and while they are at it they’d better start the lead in process on the SAR Sea Kings as well since I’m sure they’ll need replacing in the not too distant future
They’re looking to get a hypersonic bomber into service by 2015 or something are they not?
[or am I getting very confused?]
The B2/B1/B52 follow on was initially to be hypersonic with a service date of 2030-2035.
Since then though, there is now a requirement for an evolution of existing technology to be in place 2018-2020 since its clear that hypersonics technology won’t be mature enough to design new bombers around within the original timescale.
The interim evolution probably based on B2 technology gives Hypersonic technology another 10 years to mature.
I think I got those dates right, I’ll try and find the source I read it from.
EDIT: this wasn’t the article I read, but covers the issue http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/06/12/214539/speed-bump-usaf-sets-modest-goals-for-new-bomber.html
What ever happened to …. the Whirlwind that was at East Fortune for many years?
I asked a “young” member of staff during this last summer, who said that he knew they used to have one, but didn’t know what had become of it.
Being still new to this site, I have to say that I’m totally blown away but the artwork on display in this section.
Much plaudits to the artists, regardless of your choosen media and method, you are all very much masters of your craft.
My local Tesco’s has a “Keyboard Hoover” powered by USB in it’s novalty christmas gifts section. Right next to the water powered Clocks, kinetic torches and Keyring weather stations.
My local Tesco’s has a “Keyboard Hoover” powered by USB in it’s novalty christmas gifts section. Right next to the water powered Clocks, kinetic torches and Keyring weather stations.