Hmmm a Ju 87 map case – marked as Map Case !
Perhaps more likely to be a lend lease P40 map case..
To those who looked askance as I walked away with a tatty looking wooden chair – I have been cleaning it up to show its history.
A Ministry of Air Production 1941 chair – assigned to De Havilland.
I also spent yesterday recovering and getting this Lancaster bomb shackle working.
Just in case there is any doubt – having an original ton up lancaster – anywhere – especially at Hendon is wonderful! That is not in doubt in any way.
In response to the original request as to whether it was preserved exactly as in service – I only wanted to point out that its nose art was repainted three times in service and at least twice since it is retired.
Sorry for being pedantic!
Attached a pic of the lady herself at Hendon
As requested
I will fish it out and reattach.
Seemed quiet with a lot of gaps – But I managed to get a few pieces – a small Ju87 elevator section, P51 blast tube, Lancaster rudder trim tab section and bomb shackle, Small lat mark spitfire section, reference book as well as picking up some pre arranged pieces – a Vampire wheel spat and a 1941 Ministry of Air Production ( de Havilland ?) desk chair with nice crown markings.
I also acquired a very nice replacement 1899 Japanese cavalry sword to replace the one that my son bent on a watermelon.
I was tempted by the Halifax chair but the price and the crack on the base made me think twice – thank you for buying it hawker 1966 as I was tempted.
Frazzled as the return trip to Cumbria Via Cardiff took all day!
Adrian – this text says that following the crash at Topcliffe in Sept 42- she was repaired.
http://www.yorkshire-aircraft.co.uk/aircraft/yorkshire/york42/bb212.html
This citation has it down as BB212 in March 43
http://en.ww2awards.com/person/36436
and here
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nbpennfi/penn8b2Carlon_TE.htm
Halifax BB212 of No.405 Squadron (LQ-U) was airborne from Topcliffe, 1903 hours, 11 March 1943. Shot down by an Me.110 from 17,000 feet, prior to reaching the target. Sergeant R. Moore killed (buried in the Durnbach War Cemetery); Flight Sergeant G.T. Chretien, DFM, RCAF and Flight Sergeant T.E. Carlon, DFM, RCAF, both prisoners of war; Sergeant A.C.Collin, RCAF, POW; P/O J.S.Probert, RCAF, POW; Sergeant H.G.Reynolds, RCAF, POW, Sergeant A.E. Danes, RCAF, POW.
Directorate of History and Heritage file 181.001.D.24 has his “Loss Bomber Aircraft” questionnaire compiled from interrogation of 11 May 1945. He stated he had flown 15 sorties. Although the account suggests a “Jazz Music” attack from below, that particular weapon was not used at this date. For a comparative account see entry for Sergeant George T. Chretien, DFM.
March 11th, 1943 – 10.00 p.m. – Clear night, full moon. Target Stuttgart. Thirty minutes from target passed over lights, probably aerodrome. Shortly after tail gunner saw one Me.110. Pilot turned into the Me.110. Me.110 circled aircraft, gunners unable to get in a shot. Messerschmitt directly below aircraft, out of range for tail and nose gunners. First burst came through floor – second, third and fourth from same position. Navigator wounded – hydraulics unserviceable. One intercom unserviceable. Unable to release bombs. Nose and tail gunners firing at Me.110. Mid-Upper gunner – no turret, no guns, giving directions to pilot, observed the Me.110 through blister on floor. Me.110 one engine on fire, still attacking. We are out of control, pilot orders to bale out. Myself first. Landed near Heidleberg – baled out at 6-7,000 feet. Heard that Me.110 also crashed in same vicinity. Out of port hatch, thrown clear of aircraft.
SOURCE: Air Force Association of Canada website & Hugh Halliday (July 30, 2010).
What are your thoughts ?
Adrian – thank you.
Different sources – So there are two references with different aircraft!
The key as to which one is correct may lie with the aircraft that the deceased air gunner Sergeant Robert Moore was on.
Which aircraft was Chretien listed as being on in your data ?
Thanks to another thread – from this database we have an identity for the Halifax!
http://www.lostaircraft.com/database.php?e=8964&mode=viewentry#
Halifax Mk2 BB212 LQ-U of 405 Squadron RCAF – lost on the night of 11th/12th March 1943 in the correct location at Schonau.
Mike see you there..
The early bird is available – just send a note to Andy.
Saw the same item for sale in the Cumbria Antiques Centre in Brampton and despite my best endeavours to tell them it was absolutely not a Catalina – it was sold last time I dropped by…
Not sure if this is the same one or someone is mass producing faulty wooden aircraft profiles..
Eh?
Fly Buy – German parts will be R8-109 ; R8-88 etc. with on occasion and the three letter ordnance code for the late war manufacturers and stamps for the early war manufacturers such as Erla on a 109 piece and WF on a Ju87 piece.
I have pics of the stamps on various parts if needed on 109, Ju87, Ju88 ( none on ju52 !)
Russian – I have Yak 3, Yak 9 and Il2 stamps.
I have had one French piece – Bregeut and it only had the aircraft production number painted on the cowl.
Italian and Spanish – nothing so far.
This is the Longeron fixation drawing
There is a mention on this site thread:
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?131580-Aircraft-Compass-List&highlight=compass