Originally posted by GarryB
“Narrowminded and stubborn comes to my mind to describe your way of discussion…. ”Stubborn? If you gave some good reasons to change my mind then if I didn’t you could call me stubborn. The fact that i don’t agree with you just because doesn’t make me stubborn or narrow minded.
“I see no sense in continuing the argument. You are twisting arguments as needed. “
I have been accused of that in the past, and all I can say is that if I am twisting your arguements all you have to do is state that at the time and restate what you actually meant in a clearer way.
The fact that you are saying this now just tells me that you needed some excuse to give up the discussion and something that made it look like a communication fault on my side seems popular. Of course if it really was a communication problem then it is more to do with your lack of clarity or bothering to correct me if I mistakenly misconstrue somethign you said.“Btw I love the argument that nations that are not allowed to buy F-16s, should prefer the MiG – oh wonder.”
Yes, that is in my Signature… “All airforces in the world must buy Mig-29s.” “If you have to buy something else it had better be Russian or else!!!”.
“I especially love the argument that Austria should do all the maintenance of say 24 MiGs themselves, as this would be cheaper to sent the planes to Russia.”
Please quote me saying that.
“I´m saying that operating a small fleet of MiG-29 SMT with my own avionivs fit in 2015 could become very expensive at that time, as I might be the only operator of that plane worldwide. “
Of course not… everyone will have Mig-29s… look at the rule above. Besides with everyone dumping their F-16s to get JSFs for a while there will be large numbers of cheap F-16s… till numbers start to shrink and then disappear too.
The funny thing about the extra expense of making your own parts and overhauling your own aircraft is that all that money is spent in your own country. Buy spare parts from other places and you tend to have to pay in US dollars and before they arrive you have to pay up. Assuming there is no embargo on you because you happen to have entered a war against someone the US likes more than you. (Being US made the US can block exports of the parts no matter who makes them…)
“But Garry did.”
Quote me.
As far as I can see the most I said was:
“As I said above somewhere, a large country (ie Brazil or Australia) might need a Flankers sized aircraft, but a small country like Austria wouldn’t need such a large aircraft.”
In other words a Country like Austria doesn’t need a flanker sized aircraft to defend itself. I guess in Seahawk land that means they must only buy mig-29s but the rest of us live here in the real world. The Gripen is NOT a Flanker sized aircraft. (And F-15 or an F-22 is, but a Gripen is NOT). Am I clear now?
“In his posts, the MiG is always the better choice and that is what I call narrowminded.”
And in all your posts everything is better than Soviet or Russian equipment. Does that make you narrow minded too?
The Mig-29M would have been a rather good choice for Austria. Considering its threats any modern fighter could do the job.
Garray, use quotes. please! I beg of you with all your mercy..use quotes when you reply, its so much easier on the eyes 😎
anyways, yes the MiG-29 is as short legged as my furry friend here
have u ever eaten a penquin? i’ve eaten a penguin, sometimes it’s the only animal we can get here.
Originally posted by SOC
Bah, it’s only lunchtime here right now, and in honor of our other food-crazy member, I’m currently eating Burger King 😀
Originally posted by SOC
Bah, it’s only lunchtime here right now, and in honor of our other food-crazy member, I’m currently eating Burger King 😀
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