It’s a nice looking airplane, but it dearly needs to get rid of it’s Spey engines yes it does..
and that’s no Enchilada.. THIS is an enchilada

what kind of enchilada’s do you like?
i remember some one posting that before.
Although the island here is -40c, me home is FLAME BROILING HOT!!!! 😀
Although the island here is -40c, me home is FLAME BROILING HOT!!!! 😀
Originally posted by Distiller
For a “western” jet like the L159 I think it is more like 3mio USD because you have to comply with all regulations, need COM, need NAV etc. But you might save more if you register in the US as “Experimental”.
me thinks it’s more like 7 million at least.
Originally posted by SabreAce
Garry, I’m talking about the early fuclrum-As and not the latest ones.Let’s talk about the figure of 1500 km for range first. Does’nt seem bad at all. The range with the centreline tank is pretty good and it can be jettisoned during combat if needed. However, despite all this, many including pilots label the Mig-29 as “too shortlegged to be of any usefulness other than point defence”
Now why don’t we hear similar complaints about the F/A-18, F-16 or Mirage-2000? The only advantage they had is that even their earlier versions could carry underwing drop tanks or had IFR unlike the Mig-29 as well as their their higher loadouts.
Please, don’t compare the Hornet with the Fulcrum my Pakistanian friend. They were designed for two different things, indeed they were..
The Hornet has more range, and most importantly, better fuel consumption, maintenance, not to mention an ergonomic cockpit, better avionics and a wider range of weapons capabilities. Only now the MiG-29SMT and M’s begin to match the F-18C 😉
Originally posted by Ja Worsley
m.ileduets: Don’t worry about our resitend fat friar, he is annoying at times but he has some good pics, well occasionally, that’s if he doesn’t post pics about his home (McDonnalds world wide)As for the triangular bit you are refering to, I don’t know what you mean but looking at the tails they are different.
My guess is because we bought early models our PC-9’s, and subsequent upgrade to 9A (Hence the Underwing stores tanks) and grey colour scheme.
The 9’s are used for pilot training, the 9A’s are used for FAC (Forward Air Control) that’s why they have the stores under the wing, they also have uprated engines.
don’t mind him, my tasty friend. Ja’s a bit bitter that i pirated his album instead of buying it 😉
also I never met the guy and he’s never seen me before, yet he insists I’m big boned 😮
as for Bulgaria..:mad:
they’re a swell people 😀
intermeresting posts you nice people,
so it would seem that in the South Korean and Braslia markets, it was Knaapo products being pushed?
who will Malaysia go for their MKMs?
ooh big scary bulgaria :rolleyes:
good thing you guys saved this thread with some awesomeering Australian and Croatian aviation pics!
Originally posted by rockgordon
That is not totally true, Irkutsk (IAPO) also builds Su-27SK for China.
how can it not be true if i didn’t mention it.. it says Su-30MKI, Su-27UB, and among others 😉
a word of caution here Troung..or should i call you Zhang?
the IAI MiG-2000 and Lancer are different!
IAI and Elbit who does the lancer, are rivals and are in constant competition with each other. I’m sure they wouldnt appreciate being labled as the same
Originally posted by Srbin
I am so glad for all those African countries geting oil, Like Chad, Nigeria, Equatorial Guinea(who has a 20% growth/year) and now ANgola, I hope they spend it on their people and less on defence.
My #1 Yugoslavian comrade, Oil is NOT the blessing in disguise. The only country in the world that manage to control it’s oil economy is Norway!!
most Oil countries end up not adequately developing their other industries, so when oil prices go down, they get really effected..that’s what happened to Nigeria.
Also it causes inflation like crazy.. look at Indonesia..
Then many oil countries now are in heavy debt, look at Saudi Arabia.
All because they relied heavily on unpredictable oil profits based on unpredictable prices.
Norway put a large amount of their oil funds in a national government cache which was usually used for social programs.
“Pretty women make men buy beer, ugly women make men drink beer”
“Pretty women make men buy beer, ugly women make men drink beer”
Originally posted by h177
i will remove the article.
good boy, maybe you should put it in the Lancer thread since that came from the MiG-21 too 😉
anyways, to Troung, yes I think you should make an F-7 thread, the article H177 put up did make me wonder about Pakistan’s aims to get some BVR out of that ol’ dog.