Hola Burger flipper. Im really only interested in low cost combat aircraft as an alternative to the latest american/euro stuff. So that only leaves me to talk about jet trainers, as fighters like the LCA and FC-1 are a long ways off.

Im glad you brought up Mexican labor as I do have special interest in that. The people who do that are usually native Mexicans who are the lowest in the social ladder under mixed race and european Mexicans. So niether the government nor the people of Mexico dont really knock themselves out to improving the situation for these people. But if the US were to legalize this kind of labor, they would actually have increased wage control as there would be more competition from neighboring Latin American countrys. As well as increased border security and improved working conditions.

Hello Mixtex,

I think Mexico should have more McDonalds, the corporation in America is the #1 job creator, making millions of jobs, and cannot be matched by the private or public sectors anywhere! It also is one of the few jobs that don’t require alot of education, so there’s lots of hope for Mexico’s citizens.

Check out my mexican air force thread, some alternatives to western aircraft there

No but they will be going into production soon, the G-4 is done. Even the G-4M has no hope for any sort of production, and it’s performance is not up to par with the Yak-130, especially in avionics, payload, weapons carried and number of hardpoints.

Also as for Yak-130, there seems to be a single seat light fighter version being developed. dubbed Yak-133, with stronger AI-222-28 engines which will be similar to M-346’s engines, and it is also said to carry some 800 more kg of fuel internally. It is schedueled to fly in 2005-2006 but I am not sure about this at all.

Now now Toni, drawings don’t count. 😉 if they did, we’d see some crazy looking aircraft out there. So, where does this magical aircraft exist? Remember drawing’s don’t count 🙂 and don’t attempt to make one yourself, other wise the Yak-133 would end up looking like a deformed MCA drawing.

If it’s just about the defensite avionics then I don’t see a big problem that those cannot be integrated, I mean the nose can be lengthened to house more avionics and as well as the small Kopyo-M/-F radar and give BVR capability.

The Yak-130 is almost supersonic but not entirely, meanwhile the M-346 is lighter than standard Yak-130 and it’s engines provide 500kg more thrust all together than that of Yak-130 so I would assume it would be faster, though I think my estimates were a little too big.

no you have not, all u told me was by who it was posted to, I looked for it but did not find it. Mind providing me a link of the thread?

Well R-77 is no problem, as for larger weapons like Kh-35, well if its said to be able to carry as much as 4 KAB-500L/Krs(all together 2000kg) then I don’t think 4 Kh-35 missiles(where each weighs around 481kgs) will be a problem.

Though I think attaching almost a 980kg Kh-59M might be a problem, but I think it may be able to lift one or two.

Well, I think they can provide any of those, spares, support, training, anything, just how good those might be varies from company from company. The same can be said about any other plane.

I don’t see why not, the FTC-2000 is more of a further development of the J-7, it’s whole back fuselage and engine are of the J-7 and I don’t see why it cant cost way under 7mn. Also I asked crobato but he does not have much info on the FTC-2000.

Hey Toni Kukoc Jr and Wazenwhatro, your aircraft has nothing on the Super Galeb Super upgrade!

Already exists, much cheaper than your precious Yak-13090123 and Golden Eagle. And already has alot of weapons, beat that! :rolleyes:

Using your logic, the F-5 is built the same like an F-15? or a MiG-21 built the same as an Su-27? Do you expect an F-5 to be able to take the same damage from a Manpad as an F-15?

That’s true, not all jets can take the same damage, case in point

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with mysterious weapon

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