Thank you Air Ministry, appreciate the feedback as with others who replied, gives a better understanding of the use of the drawings.
Ok thanks, sounds reasonable.
I was thinking along the lines of “specification info/index? sheet” ?
From memory it was one of the chordal stiffeners
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Ok thanks, curiosity got the better of me
I hope it found a worthy home…….. or is it still forgotten in storage I wonder?
I believe the part is common to the Sunderland front turret, too, so I wonder if there’s a project out there that needs it?
I know this was along time ago but could Air Ministry or someone else possibly tell me what this piece was?
I cant see the attached images
thanks
Maybe contact the site creator here?
http://www.vickersmachinegun.org.uk/
Like the footage of the Whitley at the end, pity we didn’t get a better shot of the front turret.
This turret is an FN4 not an FN20. There is an awful lot of black paint on it to be Sunderland. I really think this turret was destined for bomber command. Also, if you look carefully at the mod plate in the first picture it is unmarked. This strongly suggests it was never actually issued and was probably used as a training aid. This may explain how this FN4 ended up in Oz.
Can I ask what the colour should be off a Sunderland?
And when you say the mod plate is unmarked, is it with no mods no.s or FN type no.?
Although not of a Sunderland FN4, a few more pics for comparison out interest between the two turrets.
The first 2 from Whitely and Stirling has lot of similarities to the found turret in question but neither served here, only Sunderlands and Wellingtons?
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If it was from a Lancaster, it would probably be an FN20 rather than an FN4. I’m afraid that I can’t tell the difference from your photos, although the FN20 was slightly wider. The Sunderland did have a four-gun tail turret but this was an FN13.
Mk1 Sunderlands had the FN13 tail turret I believe, but MK2,3’s had the FN4 as shown in first pic on one of the six MK3 Aussie Sunderlands ML732 to serve here.
Although from my research on the front turrets there was a mixture of FN11 single Vickers GO (which we have an surviving example of ) and FN5b twin Browning turrets fitted, so this may have applied to the tail turrets as well?
From what I can see from my comparison pics, the turret framing members in question looks like a FN4 rather than Lanc FN20/120 ?
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Hoping this is alright to ask here but I thought it might be appropriate considering the thread
I have been trying to find out if the numbers on a mod plate can be deciphered to what mods have actually been done ?, specifically on a mod plate of a Frazer Nash Turret.
Is there reference list available or someone here who can shed some light on what the numbers mean?
Cheers