I don’t know about a British-marked F-111, it’s one of my silent hopes for this thread though π Good find on the Yak-23. It was a Romanian machine which defected to Yugoslavia in 1953. One of the conditions under which Yugoslavia would get it’s F-84s was that this airplane was to be tried by the US for some time. I didn’t know what happened with it afterwards, but appearantly it was returned to Yugoslavia – guess they gave it back to Romania again.
Here’s some more.
Germany – well, almost weekly but then again that’s not too difficult, considering i live two kilometres from the border. What are your whereabouts? Adresses for beerstops are always welcome…
Blondes? Do bear in mind that your proprietor personally favours dark-haired specimen of the female species, and that may well reflect in his hiring policy. But i’ll do my best to please the rest of the customers too.
Has anyone been to the Bunkr club in Prague in recent years? It’s been a while for me, but i remember the first thing you’d see when walking in, was a MiG-15 intake both appealing aviation interests, and slightly less innocent associations with gaping holes. And having had a tour at the former RAF Laarbruch recently, definately made me think about organising a rave in the underground nuclear shelter. Absolutely great setting, and somehow i don’t think there’ll be a lot of complaints from the neighbours. Or just rent the cavity of an An-124, of course.
Another cool themebar, i don’t know if it still exists: i think it was in Slovakia, where a club was called ‘Kamikaze’ and had an L 29 sticking out front – as if it had just flown in. I don’t know if that one has survived the 9/11 empathy.
Flex,
Yep, that’s the one.
Ja,
What’s wrong with Flex’ pics?
Definately a place where y’all are happily invited, and actually have lots of extra credit on the being-annoyingly-drunk-before-getting-kicked-out front.
But do be gentle on the barkeeper. He’ll have to command the cleaners around next morning…
Hey! Rush is not a Limburger – i am! Besides, the German Limburg is just an itty little town to the north of Wiesbaden, the Dutch Limburg is a totally backward province with nothing but good connections with more interesting places.
Ja, you’re confusing the old-style PC-7 with the PC-7MkII, which has the same airframe as the PC-9. The designations are definately confusing, but as it is the PC-7 has very little, if nothing, to do with the PC-7MkII.
One thing Flex; the drawing you posted of that Saudi Pilatus is a PC-9 not-II.
The PC-7Mk II is the same airframe as the PC-9Mk II , but with a downrated engine. This was the variant originally developed for South Africa, and the PC-9II was Pilatus’ proposal for the US JPATS competition based on the PC-9. By the time both versions were ready for production, the PC-7 and PC-9 production lines merged since now there were two aircraft types sharing the same airframe. You’ll find PC-7II and PC-9II construction numbers being in the same series because of this.
These PC-9IIs from the ‘merged’ production line are recognisable by the double kinked tailfin extension, while the original PC-9s only have one. However, at least one early PC-9 has been rebuilt to PC-9II (or PC-9M if you like) standard and is now with the Croat AF. If you search in the archives, there is an effort of Steve Touchdown and me tracking this one down, including pics of it.
Basically, the only difference between the T-6, PC-7II and PC-9II is the engine and avionics, but those are also partly customer-dependant.
T-6A: PT6A-68, 1100hp
PC-7II: PT6A-25C, 700hp
PC-9II: PT6A-62, 950hp (1150hp peak).
Best way to keep them apart is the operator/serial, i guess.
This latter engine is also the one fitted to the KT-1, hahaha. Although there is nothing official to be found on this matter, a fact is that Korea was denied to order PC-7MkIIs by the Swiss government since the Koreans from the outset stated an armed role (as an A-37 replacement). The Swiss government suddenly didn’t want to sell weapons anymore (as if there were no PC-7s ever used in conflict before :rolleyes:), then there is a lot of silence, and suddenly the Koreans are flying a xeroed copy of the PC-9MkII. You can draw your own conclusions…
You’re right regarding the MiG-29M2 having the sharp LERXes Flex, i didn’t think of that one (dumb, dumb me). But the fuselage section on the pic is most likely not the MiG-29M2 ‘demonstrator’ as was displayed. It looks way too much like a brand-new piece of airframe. There is absolutely nothing there apart from the airframe itself – if you compare it with the MiG-AT undergoing work next to it, i think the difference between refurbishment and a new piece of airframe is pretty obvious. There is a guy working on it (at least he has got his hands on the LERX, he’s either doing something with it or trying not to fall π ).
The place of the bulkhead (right at the point where the LERX start) also seems to match with the MiG-29M2, the UB has it a bit more forward.
Now come on Steve, you don’t want to disturb this really hilarious Cult-of-Personality-in-progress by only picking on the negative effects of the Reagan administration?
Pluto,
….because we don’t want to.
is that too hard to understand?Why? Because we don’t NEED to leave the country to travel…..
I don’t want to sound pompous and arrogant, but travelling involves a lot more than just changing the scenery from mountains to deserts to beaches to jungles. Even more than changing the scenery from Tornados to Floggers to F-15s.
It’s the different people, with different languages, habits, cultures that makes travel so much more than just plain sightseeing. I absolutely agree that the US offers one of the most varying sceneries of any country around the world (although Russia certainly comes close, and China probably has even more different landscapes), but touring across the US just in no way compares to what i consider travel. And it most definately didn’t teach me even one percent of what i learned from travelling through other countries with probably less to see – i definately don’t recommend the Romanian Banate for sightseeing, that’s for sure!
I’m speaking for myself here, but i’m pretty sure my experiences as a travellin person have helped shape my views on the world. Conclude from that what you wish.
TTP,
PS I spent alot of time in Russia in 1988 and was amazed at what I saw. I also spoke off the record with many Soviets and they were all hoping the communist sytem would go away!!!
Ya ne znal ty govorish po-russki. Have you been back ever since, and spoken to many ordinary former-Soviets how they look back on it now? It’s funny though. Everyone now is praising Ronnie Raygun for alledgedly ending Communism in the Soviet Union, but exactly how democratic do you guys think that Putin is?
Besides, the one action the Reagan administration did which seriously hamper the social structure of the Soviet Union was the one that backfired with a blast on 9/11/2001. Yeah, let’s fund those Mujaheddeen freedom fighters in Afghanistan… I can really recommend watching Rambo III for those who want to get a taste of 1980s American conservative thought π
Back to top, i think it’s an interesting question. Flex, Shkval… let’s hear it π
See? 334Peg is joining the BARF (Boring, Another Rotten F-16). He’s had it with them too. I’m sure it will eventually become just as populair as the Campaign Revoke Acceptance of Super Hornet…
The Myanmarese Turbo Thrushes – it seems your article in Scramble didn’t get the wide circulation it deserved, Steve. ‘T was a great read though, and definately a heads-up. I did know about Turbo Thrushes being used in Myanmar at the same time i got to know the Thrush (somewhere in the late 1990s or so), but not that they were actually painted in Burmese markings.
As for the explanation what those machines were doing in Myanmar/Burma and who paid for them – i shan’t poop through your hole Steve, you can tell him π
From what i know, Burkina Faso had MiG-21MFs, not MiG-21bis and most certainly not “MiG-21L”s which is of course a nonsense designator :rolleyes: They had eight of them, delivered around 1983 and in use during the 1985 clashes with Mali. Also, two MiG-21UMs were in service but all are retired.
At least the drawing shows a MiG-21MF rather than a MiG-21bis π