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April 24, 2004 at 1:29 pm in reply to: Mirage III vs MiG-21BIS #2696064

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Yeah, i know there are plenty of targets for Pakistan close behind the front. But attacking those is nice to counter Indian attacks – it doesn’t take the battle out as much as an attack far deeper inside India would.

Although it’s obvious the only way Pakistan can fight India is in a defensive mode.

April 24, 2004 at 11:54 am in reply to: Military Pzl-104 Wilga Info Requested #1593313

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Graham,
Here are the ones i remember seeing in the former Soviet Union, with a little help from my logs:

Zaporizhzhe-Shiroke, Ukraine. May 28, 1996:
21910917 / 01r
21910918 / 02r
21900909 / 03r
21910914 / 04r
all TSOU (the Ukrainain variant of the DOSAAF).

Taganrog-TANTK (Beriev factory airfield), Russia. May 29, 1996:
16820656 / 05bk
16810618 / 12bl
86277 / 06bk
all ROSTO (successor of DOSAAF)

Nikolskoye-Gatchina, Russia. August 7, 1996:
107368 / 02b
107351 / 021bk
16810628 / 24bk
21910920 / –
139483 / 52bk
139475 / – (ex 60)
all ROSTO

Lisyi Nos, Russia. August 7, 1996:
15810598 / 04r
17830702 / 08b
18840799 / 10b
140522 / 19r
128426 / 71r
all ROSTO

Kingisepp, Russia. August 11, 1996:
139487 / 03b
17830703 / 09b
all ROSTO

Paluknys, Latvia. August 12, 1996:
15810581 / LY-AGB
18830743 / LY-AGD
18840793 / LY-AGE
128439 / LY-AJD
all ex DOSAAF

Could i perhaps get a copy of that production list? I come across quite a few trip reports with the occasional Wilga-sighting, i would like to cross-check them. Also, i would be happy if you can explain the c/n system to me – there seem to be at least two systems around.

If you like, you can contact me directly at a.hubers#tiscali.nl with the # of course being an @ to avoid spambots.

Thanks in advance!

April 24, 2004 at 10:47 am in reply to: Single Engine v. Two Engines #2696113

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Originally posted by crobato
Try the Dauphine/Z-9 to start with.

Sorry to interrupt your lively discussion, but the Dauphin/Z-9 has two Arriel engines. Also, the airplane which dropped the most bombs during the GW91 was an eight-engined one, not a singl-engined one.

April 24, 2004 at 10:39 am in reply to: FC-1 deliveries to begin in 2006 to PAF #2696114

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Originally posted by PLA
all this info is from http://www.aeronautics.ru/
one of the best info provider site abot Russian Military equpmient
always giving its source

Uhh… don’t be too enthusiastic about Venik’s site, PLA. While he does a reasonable job in copy-pasting news, Venik himself is by far a reliable source. His crap concerning Allied losses over Yugoslavia is of mythical proportions, and he has ignored negative articles on Russian and Chinese gear more than once.

April 24, 2004 at 10:29 am in reply to: Mirage III vs MiG-21BIS #2696118

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Originally posted by troung
…So if the MiG-21UPG gets in range it would be lethal, the best tactic for the Mirage 5EF would be to fly very low and very fast to try and flee from the short legged MiG-21.

True, but going fast and low in a Mirage is not something recommendable for a long time. Gust is awful on an aircraft with such a large wing, which no doubt will exhaust the pilot. Add the huge strategic depth (=size) of India into the equation, and you’ll see that it’s almost impossible for Pakistan to fly any sort of strategic strikes at all, with exception perhaps to India’s western coastline. With the actual frontline already crowded by the IAF’s first-line air superiority fighters, one could argue what the actual value of small point defense fighters like the MiG-21UPG is against an enemy like the PAF which has no means to extend it’s power to anything more than tactical work.

April 24, 2004 at 10:19 am in reply to: Anti-NEO (asteroid) weapons #2696120

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Originally posted by Shalav
For an object to be a NEO it has to be travelling at-least 42,000 m/s or more in the vicinity of Earths orbit. (that is the escape velocity of the Solar System at Earths orbital distance). If it was travelling any slower it would never have reached Earth orbit instead it would have swung into solar orbit and be captured as a satellite of the sun.

I don’t think you’re right here. An NEO already is a sattelite of the sun, the only problem is that it’s pattern around the sun is too close to that of the earth. The mass of the earth will obviously distort the NEO’s trajectory if it gets close enough, but it will be a solar sattelite by definition.

Changing the NEO’s trajectory without a collission can i think only be done by using the NEO’s own mass. Bringing all the potential energy towards that asteroid necessary to change the momentu of an object with a mass of (let’s say) forty million tonnes and a velocity measured in kilometres per second is pretty much impossible IMHO. Something which extracts mass from the NEO and ejects in in a particulair direction sounds like the best option, especially because the scattergun effect of a destroyed asteroid doesn’t seem too attractive.

As for this mass ejection, i’m afraid it won’t be enough to send Bruce Willis on a heroic mission and have him throw bricks and gravel from the rock in a particulair direction. Best idea would be to have a penetrating nuclear weapon. For which you not only need a launch vehicle with excellent last-stage maneuvrability (you want to steer that NEO away from the earth, not towards it!), and it would be nice to know something about the NEO’s geology. A solid crystallised carbon asteroid (don’t know if they exist, but if there are it is probably the diamond to get your sadly mised ex-girlfriend back) or even high-density metal object don’t seem to be to easy to penetrate and have your warhead survive.

As for ramming the NEO out of orbit with another asteroid object: great idea, but that means that after discovering an NEO you will have to start looking VERY hard to find a suitable asteroid to sacrifice. As with the NEO itself, you need to figure out of some mass-ejecting system to get that bumper-asteroid crash into the NEO. Even if you pull this through, planning such an operation could well take more time than you have. And don’t forget that calculating the collisions is really difficult: vast speeds, relatively small objects, and irregular-shaped objects. Think of 3-d billiards with supersonic egg-shaped billiard balls 😮

It could be a good idea to get some bumper asteroids in advance, and park them in an orbit around the earth. Since George Bush is going to mars anyway, maybe we can ask him to take Phobos and/or Deimos (Mars’ two small asteroid-sized moons) back with him, and prepare those by pre-installing some sort of engines on them, like dug in explosives or something like that.

Somehow i don’t think this will get me a job at NASA though :p

April 24, 2004 at 9:54 am in reply to: How much do the Russians know about USAF aircraft? #2696126

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Just a bit of babbling. The US did get to fly MiG-21s and 23s during the Cold War, and a number of Su-20s as the most modern aircraft. All the more modern stuff was only flown after the collapse of the Soviet Union. I strongly doubt if Belenko’s MiG-25 had been flown when in US hands, and although a Su-9 is mentioned as well i am pretty sceptic about this one – and even so, it was a pretty useless interceptor anyway.

Despite all this i don’t think the US was all that realistic in it’s threat assesment. As late as 1988, the USAF had planned an ultra-realistic exercise over New Mexico in which the agressor role would be fulfilled by almost two dozen real MiGs. Mind you, those were ex-Polish and ex-PLAAF MiG-15s (Lim1/Lim2’s) and MiG-17s (Lim5/6, J-5). These were considered to be realistic enemies against late-1980s F-15s and F-16s :confused:

On the other hand, the Soviets definately got to fly in the F-5 and A-37 (from Vietnam), Mirage F.1 (Lybia, France), Mirage III (Lebanon), Draken (Finland, during the exchange in 1978), and they definately had close hands-on experience with the F-4 and F-111 (Vietnam wreckage).

April 23, 2004 at 10:52 pm in reply to: How much do the Russians know about USAF aircraft? #2696330

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And if you look for the other one, try googling for the Kbely aircraft museum near Prague. They have got another ex-Vietnamese F-5E there.

April 23, 2004 at 10:46 pm in reply to: How to anger Great Britain, Hollywood style! #1994080

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In the end, they all smell the same.

April 23, 2004 at 9:21 pm in reply to: How to anger Great Britain, Hollywood style! #1994117

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A bit of a 1980s Hilary Duff or Avril Lavigne or early Britney Spears. Young, well-marketed fluff pop. She had a sex change, and went on to play in movies as “The Road Warrior” and it’s two sequels, after which she became a totally boring fart.

April 23, 2004 at 9:15 pm in reply to: How to anger Great Britain, Hollywood style! #1994124

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Are Mel and Debbie related?

And how comes Mel doesn’t sing anymore? I know his identical twin sister regrettably died, but that doesn’t mean Mel has to stop.
Show show show show…
show show show show…

April 23, 2004 at 9:06 pm in reply to: How to anger Great Britain, Hollywood style! #1994134

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We’re good guys really. When the trolls stop bleeding, we stop kicking.

April 23, 2004 at 8:52 pm in reply to: PZL P.11c #1601406

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The Krakow museum definately has a few authentic gems from the sticks, fabric & wire-era. Original Albatroses (of the German biplane kind), a Halberstadt… It even got me interested in those flying handkerchiefs for a while, but then my attention switched to the parrafin burners again – of which their collection is also very interesting.

Nice detail about the P11c is that back in 1939, it was actually based at Krakow-Rarowice which is now the museum site. It literally is back home now.

Here is the museum’s collection, from the site at http://www.muz-lotnictwa.krakow.pl/estrona.html

April 23, 2004 at 8:43 pm in reply to: Mirage III vs MiG-21BIS #2696401

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About what Mirage III are we talking? The IIIE was a world apart from the IIIC, for starters.

April 23, 2004 at 8:40 pm in reply to: No more Mr. niceguy in Iraq #1994146

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