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  • in reply to: What's the result of that confront? #2530766
    Fox One
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    sorry I can’t read Russian, but I didn’t see others as you said F-16 or Tornado, except Cy-27 and F-15, so you may be cheating me

    Russian isn’t my native language too, but that doesn’t stop me from understanding a typical combined instantaneous/sustained performance diagram. You don’t need to know russian to understand a diagram showing probably the most important maneuvering characteristics of combat a/c. That seems to be too complicated for you, despite this diagram is identical with what you will find in any western a/c flight manual, too. That shows what you know, buddy…

    I am cheating you:D 😀 😀 😀

    You see here only Su-27 and F-15 because the study is 51 pages and compares separately Su-27 with F-15, F-16 and Tornado

    in reply to: What's the result of that confront? #2530908
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    28 d/s for Su-27? you are kidding :p show me source s’il vous plait;)

    This is from a russian study (available at airwar.ru) comparing maneuvering characteristics of Su-27, F-15, F-16 and… Tornado (:D ) . It is from 1986.

    Look at the curve at left showing turn rate limit as a function of max AOA, look at the 8.5 G curve (maximum G the FCS will let you pull for the given weight) and look where they intersect… no, you’re not dreaming, it’s 30 deg/sec…

    in reply to: Czech Air Force photos #2546035
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    http://lkpd.site.cz/Fotogal_Vse/J399245_11122006_1.jpg

    What is that smoke coming downwards near the exhaust?

    That is most likely compressor secondary air – i.e. air that escapes through the small gaps between the various stator and rotor stages and enters in the central part of the compressor (between the rotor disks). That air is better to be evacuated.

    The air appears white because is already compressed, and when escapes in the atmosphere through the ventral pipe it expands and forms condensation.

    in reply to: MiG-17 Questions #2527176
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    There aren’t separate antennas on MiG-17 for transmit/receive. There are separate antennas for search (upper) and track (bottom “bullet”). The upper antenna has two parabolic reflectors mounted back to back, one tilted slightly up, one slightly down. This entire ensemble rotates around a vertical axis (belive me, I rotated it with my own hand) and surely each antenna transmits only when is within the radome limits, to cover an azimuth angle of ?? degrees. So basically this is a kind of “2-bar scan”, the reflector tilted up finds targets that are above the fighter’s axis, the other reflector – targets below. Of course, the search antenna ansemble cannot be moved in elevation, it always emmits “forward” along the axis, is not gyrostabilised. I don’t know what are the angles and other parameters, but that’s the principle.

    The bullet antenna is a simple parabolic reflector that rotates, tracking the target using the conical scan method. When the pilot tracks a target, the radar commutes from searching with the upper antenna to tracking one target with the bullet antenna that measures target’s angular deviation from fighter’s axis and range.

    in reply to: Unpressurized jets #2528878
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    Sukhoi Su-25 are unpressurized, the typical mission profile was done flying low, so there was no need for pressurized cockpit.

    But I read that during Afghanistan war because of the high altitude mountains the soviet pilots flying Su-25 were forced to fly routinely at much higher altitudes than they used to (not only for clearance above the terrain, but also due to Stinger threat) in no point during the entire flight except the attack phase the altitude above the terrain shoud be less than 2000 m IIRC.

    As anyone can imagine, frequent exposure to low pressure inevitably created certain health problems to the pilots.

    in reply to: MiG-23/27 Questions #2542540
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    Of course, they change sweep with the wing to stay inline with airflow. Just like on all other swept-wing fighters that have pylons on the moving portion of the wings.

    Surprising mistake for Flex, that I know is a very knowledgeable person.

    I have never imagined that there is a person interested in military aviation who doesn’t know that on MiG-23/27 series the pylons under the movable part of the wing are FIXED, they don’t rotate like on Su-24 or F-111, those pylons are for PTB-800 fuel tanks ONLY and when those underwing tanks are fitted the entire flight must be made with the wing on 16 deg position. You should regard those underwing tanks as designed for long ferry flights, not for combat, for example all soviet Floggers when they left East Germany and Poland were fitted with three tanks.

    With underwing tanks and wing 16 deg the airplane is restricted to Mach 0.8. The underwing tanks can be dropped together with the pylons and the pilot is then free to change wing sweep. Also, if the a/c is to land with underwing tanks the landing must be made with the flaps on takeoff (25 deg) position instead of 50 deg LAND pos, because there is not enough clearance for the flaps because of the tanks. All this results clearly from MiG-23UB/ML practical aerodynamics, pages 183-184.

    The real COMBAT fuel tank is the underfuselage tank, is also 800 liters. With this tank the aircraft is allowed to fly with the wing 16 deg with the same restrictions as above, BUT also to fly with the wing 45 deg, with restriction 1000 kmph IAS or for a maximum Mach of 1.6, the manual says because of the deterioration of lateral static stability margin. Flight with underfuselage tank and wing 72 deg is not allowed.

    in reply to: Black Widow II today! #2567237
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    I got this ultimately expensive resin kit by Collect-Aire (yes, it is 1/48) and it is just too precious to start 😉 I cannot find enough courage to make the first cut.. 😉

    You know, I was also thinking about buying one, not knowing anything about Collect Aire kits. I was thinking that at this price it must look stunning, being made by some fanatics that count every bolt and rivet. I like a lot this absolutely beautiful aircraft and since I already have the Italeri 1:72 I wanted smth better/bigger. But I found on F-16.net a topic about this kit and everybody who saw it said it’s pretty much a lousy, inaccurate kit. And I was pretty surprised to see that you find the kit “precious”… I don’t understand…

    On Collect Aire website there were some pics of their 1:48 Su-24M, and it was quite obvious that K-36 seats headrests were pretty bulky, canopyes looked spartan, lots of things on the thick side, rounded stabilator corners… definitely not smth I would buy. I first thought it was just an accident, maybe it was built many years ago when good walkarouns for russian a/c were not available, but now I have read that topic about the YF-23 kit, and I won’t ever buy one.

    in reply to: TOP GUN and Agressor aircraft schools around the world #2594665
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    That’s not a MiG-23 belonging to a dedicated russian agressor unit. It is a plane formerly belonging to 120 IAP and it is pictured here with three fuel tanks while flying from Bagram back home during the russians retreat from Afghanistan in early 1989.

    in reply to: Sukhoi Su-34(Su-27IB) #2604537
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    What really amazes me is that on one hand Russia has continued expensive development of Fullback and is now fielding some machines, but on the other hand today russian Su-27 pilots are flying probably 20 hours a year…

    How determined is really Russia to have a credible, capable air force? How many hours operational Fullback pilots will fly per year? They will be a lucky elite, and will receive adequate funding to train well, but for the “rest” of the russian air force pilots things will probably not change too much.

    Isn’t that introduction in service of a new, complex aircraft actually a false coming back? How can a country in the same time have a pretty lousy state of the things in operational regiments, but to introduce a new tipe into service?

    in reply to: Pictures of Su-27s formerly based in Chojna, Poland #2604538
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    Not sure if this is from Chojna, but its deffinitely from Soviet bases in Poland.
    Sorry for low quality. They are scans from old magazines.

    Aircrafts 01 and 02 red in your first picture are from 159 GvIAP formerly based in Kluczewo, Poland. About Kluczewo Su-27s pictures the situation is not so dramatic, there was an article in Air Action magazine back in 1993 with superb pics. I have also found on http://forum.airforce.ru recent pics with ex-Kluczewo (lucky) machines that are still serviceable, 30, 43, 44, 45, 66 red, the paint was very weared off. It seems like from ’87-’89 (estimation) when were manufactured these a/c were not overhauled and today are still in the original paint!

    The aircraft 03 blue is indeed from Chojna! Probably taken during withdrawal. Never seen it before. Thank you very much, I really appreciate it!

    in reply to: Pictures of Su-27s formerly based in Chojna, Poland #2560274
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    Very nice photos!

    One question though,what are those starts below the cockpit?Sucessfull missile launches or?

    Those stars are F-15s shot down by soviet Flankers :diablo:

    Most likely the stars are pilotless targets shot down in training exercises.

    in reply to: MiG-25 PD cockpit pictures and Intrument Identification #2571455
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    I agree, NPP should have a warning flag, but it doesn’t. Looks like on MiG-25P (D) SKV-2N-1 (heading, pitch, bank) gyro unit failure is signalled by blinking АРРETИР button-light on the KPP instrument. On later HSI instruments like PNP-72-12 (equips MiG-29) there is a failure red flag КС (it means “heading system”).

    Fox One
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    As you can see this ARU indicator is late type (single instrument), instead of two circular ones on earlyer a/c. The scales: to the left СTАБИЛ (stabilator), and to the right РУЧКА (control column) and no numbers on the scales. The air intakes have scales 0 to 10, for 0 to 100%. Also to the right of the cabin altimeter is a small instr – voltmeter.

    Unfortunately P/PD versions cockpit pics seems quite rare, I don’t have any others. Seems like the best available so far are on this page. I would also like to get some new ones 🙂

    Fox One
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    Similar to OFF flags for NAV and HDG?

    The K and Г flags signals interception of ILS glidepath and course beacons, in navigation regime they pretty much do nothing.

    in reply to: MiG-25 PD cockpit pictures and Intrument Identification #2573334
    Fox One
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    NPP – HSI, also has ILS bars and K, Г flags
    KPP – combined director/attitude indicator
    DA-200 – well-known combined instr, present on all a/c from MiG-21 to -31 and other a/c

    The a/c has 2 baro altimeters: the above (big) one has a rotating knob and is set before take off on 0 to show altitude relative to the airfield. The second (small) one shows alt relative to sea level, to have another reference for example when cruising, but the take off airfield was let’s say 1500 m above sea level, so the 2 instruments will show a different thing.

    Also there are instruments not visible in the picture – above KPP there is a dual indicator – the position of air intakes adjustable ramps. To the left of last mentioned instrument there are two small circular indicators (or one double indicator on late-series machines). These are the ARU indicators. The ARU is a device that changes the transmission ratio from control column to stabilator for pitch control, according to flight conditions. But there isn’t just one indicator like ARU-3V in MiG-21, there are two: “control column” and “stabilator”. For more details about ARU check “MiG-25RB practical aerodynamics” manual from http://www.airwar.ru. The manual contains a brief descr of the control system.

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