could you point out which picture?
The ones posted by starikki, the first one, on the underside, there is a feint white line running along the centre line. On the last photo, look carefully on the side of the intake, there does appear to be a long rectangular panel.
Although quite grainy photos above, the finish on the J20 looks very good, extremely difficult to see any of the individual panels on that thing.
However, there clearly is a line running down the centre on the underside, and there are similar lines on the side for a long rectangular panel.
Here comes weapons bay:D
Are you mistaking one of the undercarriage bay doors for a weapon bay door?
Is it just me or are there no weapon bays?
Congratulations to China 🙂
This jet is “bizarre” , very strangely designed .
It is clear that the Chinese have their way …:cool:Witnesses say that it is very stable in flight and the landing was very smooth .
The fact that they used domestic engines for the first flight tells us about how much they trust their own stuff .
They learn fast , real fast .
I still find the overall design rather … strange . I would like to see its manoeuvrability in subsonic regimes and its ability at dogfighting … :rolleyes:
Agree with you regarding the unique design. It looks like one of those designs which shouldn’t really be able to fly…but it does somehow 🙂
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this the first flying twin enginned, twin fin, delta-canard fighter? Did the Mig 1.44 ever fly?
Great pic. Is that the AGM-142 Have Nap on the lead Terminitor or the Israeli Popeye missile?
Notice that too, what function does this twist perform in aerodynamics?
Delays wingtip stalling, reduces wingtip vortex formation and, more importantly, reduces boundary layer separation, i.e. inhibits airflow from travelling along the leading edge of the wing, rather than over the wing.
Previous designs have used ‘dog tooth’ notches in the leading edge of the wing, or sometimes even in LERX, such as the Mig-23. Overall, it improves the efficiency of the wing. This is particularly important for sustained high speed performance, such as supercruising, such as the F-22, and hence, maybe even for the J-20?
I can’t believe the fact that given how close people can get to the airfield, none of them seems to have a decent high-res camera with a strong lens to take some clearer pictures :confused:
Most of the pics and vids so far seem to have ben done with camera phones or low res cameras
She has a really cute ass! 🙂
The twist near the wing tips is also quite visible in the above pic, a la Raptor style.
PLA-MKII,
With all due respect, you said;
I’ve done all that I can to try and make Iran aware but without any success.
Please tell me how anyone is suppossed to inteperet that? So you actually approached the Iranian state authorities and put forward your ‘analysis’ based on your ‘Grand Strategy’ page? Sounds very ambitous, how did the Iranian state respond?
Guys, come on, it’s rather premature to be discussing this topic isn’t it? We don’t really know the specs of the aircraft yet, so any comparison with the PAKFA, especially in terms of export potential, is all rather pointless. Heck, we don’t even know the full specs of the PAKFA yet.
What’s more, both these projects are at the prototype/tech demonstrator stage, so there’s plenty of potential for further changes and developments over the next 5-10 years.
What’s more, I doubt whether the potential export customers listed so far have the need for such large, complex, resource intensive aircraft in operation. A much smaller, simpler, single-engined aircraft would fit the requirement, and with a price tag of USD50 mn or less.
Now there’s a question for a thread topic; is it possible to develop a 5G fighter which costs USD50 mn or less?
Here’s a new one
There appears to be a bort number on the aircraft in this pic, which hasn’t appeared in any of the previous photos so far. Has the bort number been recently added or is there more than one prototype?
Interesting line up, J7, J10, J10BS and J20, would be interesting to see J7 next to this thing 😮
…the J-20 is the latest Chinese fighter…
The PAF Block-52 may be better than anything the Chinese have currently in their inventory.
SU-30MKK, SU-30MKK2, SU-27SK, J-11B?
Perhaps you like to argue for the sake of arguing, I’ll leave you to your thoughts 😀
You missed the point completely. I was simply amusing over the fact that now China has to be concerned over it’s technology leaking to the West, when for a considerable time in the past, it was the other way around. Just goes to show how far the Chinese have come, in aerospace at least anyway.
Besides, wasn’t there alot of end user agreements placed on the PAF/Pakistan even for the Block-52s, like where to base the aircraft, routine inspections, no Chinese personnel at the base etc? Why the concern if the Block-52s are no longer the best the US has and when China is already at the stage of 5G?
# It will have a decent range, its fat, will carry large amount of internal fuel. If it is as big as it looks.
# Most realistically its currently powered by AL-31 engine variant, will need IMHO minimum of 160kN+ thrust engine, considering its lumpy frontal cross-section shape.
I think it’s shear size has surprised quite a few, I was expecting something more ‘sleeker’, with a smaller frontal nose section. Moreover, the central fuselage section reminds me of the J-8 Finback, long, flat surface to house large engines and fuel.