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  • in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion V #2365223
    Rookh
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    @Rhook
    But the SEAD Lite was a good example, mate.
    No added hardware but a nice F2 Raffy.

    So you only really have 1 example where the omnipotent Rafale excedes contemporary aircraft, and even then it’s not fully SEAD capable?

    in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion V #2365225
    Rookh
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    I think omnirole is a marketing term that stems from the fact that the Rafale replaced EVERY warplane in the french inventory. Crusader for navy air defense, Super Etendard for navy strike, Jaguar and Mirage 2000D for ground attack, Mirage F1CR for recon, Mirage 2000C/-5f for air superiority and Mirage 2000N for nuclear strike.

    Also ANY Rafale can perform any of those missions depending only on loadouts. (and yes loadouts include designation, recon and buddy-buddy refueling pods), without the need to be reconfigured (except for the nuclear role but this is all too natural).

    Nic

    Agreed, and that’s the point I was making about the term ‘omni-role’ being a marketing ploy. Given the significant segregation of role-specific aircrat in the French inventory over history, and the general trend to few platform types anyway, it isn’t really surprising to see a single platform taking over these roles, but only with the required mission specific equipment and loadouts, i.e. not really that different to the current crop of multirole aircraft then.

    in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion V #2365285
    Rookh
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    @Rhook

    Good point!
    Multirole: an A/C that can do AtoA and AtoG; The Typhoon for instance.

    Swing role : an A/C that can do many mission profiles with changes and even go from one to the other within a single mission. As the F-18F for instance.

    Omnirole : an A/C that can do any mission profile and within same mission.
    Rafale.

    Ok, but that in itself is rather vague. When you say ‘any’ what missions are you specifically referring to that makes the Rafale above and beyond that of other contemporary aircraft? Yes, I know you’ve used the SEAD ‘LITE’ example, but that’s not really convincing enough. Perhaps you could come up with a matrix with a list of roles and compare this with other aircraft, ticking off the roles which you think the Rafale can perform in standard form, without any changes or extra equipment.

    in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion V #2365308
    Rookh
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    I think you guys need to clearly define what ‘omni-role’ means before getting carried away with such a heated debate.

    Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t there at least 3 distinct versions of the Rafale, in addition to the various F premix ‘standards’ (another alternative to Blocks, Tranches, MK versions, etc..). For example, the Marine (Navy) version has strengthened landing gear, ommission of a hardpoint, in addition to other numerous equipment and structural changes which allows it to SPECIFICALLY operate from a carrier. So a French Airforce Rafale C could in no way operate from a carrier. And how is this so different to other multi-role aircraft, adapted for specific role and mission profiles, such as the F-4, Mig-29, SU-27/33 etc etc…so much for the ‘omnipotent’ Rafale then? I’m pretty sure the nuclear strike version will also have mission specific equipment levels and changes, otherwise, why the need for -D, -B, -C, -M, -N?

    in reply to: Pakistan Air Force III #2365603
    Rookh
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    Interesting video of the recent Falcon Air Meet (FAM) 2010 held in Jordan. Some nice footage of the PAF deployment, including the Mirage IIIs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA75Yq4dHQU

    in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion V #2366669
    Rookh
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    Isn’t ‘omni-role’ just marketing speil for ‘multi-role’ or ‘swing-role’, which has sometimes been used by the Typhoon I think? It’s just a way of making a product stand out amongst the crowd I think.

    in reply to: Pakistan Air Force III #2377578
    Rookh
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    Not at all.

    PAF is adopting a two tier “sanctions proof” approach.

    For every major Western system being inducted there will be a Chinese back-up

    Erieye = KJ-200
    F-16 = J-10
    TPS-77 = YLC-6
    SPADA 2000 = Undisclosed Chinese SAM

    I actually think the SPADA 2000 offers limited potential when compared with the most appropriate Chinese equivalent; the KS-1 (HQ-12), which offers over twice the range of the SPADA and a number of 3D radar options;

    http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-PLA-IADS-SAMs.html#mozTocId502105

    The SPADA has been bought in too few numbers anyway and can only really provide last line of point defence for a select few important locations against attack and cruise missiles.

    IMHO, the PAF/Pak army should have gone for a licensed canistered TEL/vertical launched version of the KS-1, it would have provided greater capability at a lower cost, with perhaps some level of TOT.

    in reply to: HELLENIC AIR FORCE NEWS & DISCUSSION #2378118
    Rookh
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    Looks like a DWS39 to me.

    Great, thanks very much ๐Ÿ™‚

    Didn’t know this was integrated with the F16.

    Rookh
    Participant

    Ahoj, ako sa vรกm? ๐Ÿ™‚

    That’s an impressive piece of work buddy, well done, must have taken alot of effort. Loads of things in there which I never knew existed! ๐Ÿ™‚

    in reply to: HELLENIC AIR FORCE NEWS & DISCUSSION #2378130
    Rookh
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    I hope some of you chaps could help me with the following pic.

    It shows a HAF Block-52 F16, with a demo of weapons, but I can’t seem to make out that stand-off weapon/missile. The rear tail section looks to be that off the Taurus KEPD 350, but I can’t see the side intakes, and I don’t think the HAF uses the Taurus? Is it some training round? It can’t be the Storm Shadow, which the HAF does use, as the tail section is all wrong.

    Can anyone identify that stand-off missile in the picture?

    in reply to: Pakistan Air Force III #2378137
    Rookh
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    Appears to be from the recent Falcon meet?

    http://www.historyofpia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=124919#p124919

    in reply to: comparison of combat jet engines #2379759
    Rookh
    Participant

    I’ve always thought a Mirage III/V/50 and RR Spey combo would have been worth looking into. I’m sure the rear fuselage section would have needed some re-working, but I think the end result would have been worthwhile.

    in reply to: Pakistan Air Force III #2380172
    Rookh
    Participant

    Wow, had to look hard, but gets more interesting!

    Hidden away in this notification is a deal for “12 new F-16s”

    Page 61 of 241 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    http://www.disam.dsca.mil/pubs/Vol%2032_1/Journal%20%2032-1%20Web%20Jul%201.pdf

    Surely you mean page number 62 of the document, which is actually on 69 out of the 241 pages of the PDF?

    …but I would not be suprised if a lot of the money comes from US Military Aid, which has recently seen a big increase.

    The document actually states that these 12 ‘new’ F16s will not be funded by the security-assistance package or PCCF, as well as the mid-life upgrade for existing F16s and the AIM 120s.

    in reply to: roll-rate data of jets #2382621
    Rookh
    Participant

    Reminds me of the famous Russian quote about the Mig-29; ‘The pilot will break before the aircraft does’.

    Perhaps instantaneous roll rates are more appropriate as a measure for aircraft performance in combat scenarios?

    in reply to: Pakistan Air Force III #2384574
    Rookh
    Participant

    PAF F16s and Mirages at Falcon Meet 2010. Nice to see the good old Mirage IIIs getting out and about for some fresh air in their old age ๐Ÿ™‚

    http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123227356

    by Tech. Sgt. Chyenne A. Adams
    Air Force Central Command Public Affairs

    10/21/2010 – JORDAN — Jordanian and American pilots recently met several thousand feet over Jordan where they exchanged knowledge and fuel.

    An aircrew operating KC-10 Extender from McGuire Air Force Base, N.J. refueled eight F-16 Fighting Falcons over Jordan as part of Falcon Air Meet 2010 — a two-week exercise bringing service members from various countries together to share doctrine and procedures, strengthen relationships, and improve regional security.

    Teams from Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Pakistan, and the U.S. are participating in the exercise and competition. Four U.S. Air Force F-16s and four Jordanian Royal Air Force F-16s participated in the aerial refueling exercise.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgbp3psBv0s

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R69MFFtCEes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxVuWKePCkY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgeg27cBJBE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMpphIZkr1M

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