Would be interesting to see what lay ahead when they convert some over for the WoT.

Something tells me you’re not joking when you say that…

See, I compare specifications only. Again, I’m not more “deluded” (as you say above) than the Pakistani members on this forum and elsewhere, who think that the JF-17 is a well certified jet, when in fact, it has not reportedly been certified by Chengdu till date. It is likely that even PAC Kamra / PAF don’t know how whether it has to be certified, lest even knowing how to undertake tests to in order to certify it.

Rookh, if you have “inside info” you may let us know when the JF-17 is certified. Till then, you may comment on all other aspects of fighter jets.

Ha ha, I like the way you’re thrashing out against the PAF/PAC Kamra/JF17, I didn’t even mention all that. My original point was regarding you questioning the IAF and seeming to know better. But never mind lash away to your heart’s content if it makes you feel better.

State-owned, state-run manufacturing is not a recipe for long-term success. Ask North Korea.

Ask China? 🙂

Rookh-rookh, your basic premise itself is flawed, that Tejas is a “low-capability fighter”. Pointed out numerous times before (and even in the previous post that you quoted) that it is a contemporary 4.5 gen fighter in the class of Gripen and F-16.

Lower capability relative to most, if not all, of the MRCA contenders. Remember the whole Light/Medium/Heavy argument which you yourself keep banging on about?

Never thought I’d see the day when Russia has to acquire a major piece of military hardware from another source. Surely the Russian’s could build something like this for themselves? Maybe even cheaper too?

Not sure if it’s worth the PN to get these, I believe they are better off with newer hulls such as the F-22Ps and upgrade them with more equipment.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=103274

Pakistan to get guided missile frigate from US

WASHINGTON: Pakistan and United States has signed the contract for the transfer of the guided missile frigate USS McInerney here on Tuesday.

Capton Abdur Rehman, defence Procurement Attache signed the contract on behalf of Pakistan Navy.

The $ 65 million contract will enable Pakistan to take over USS McInerney at US Naval station Mayport, Florida on August 31 this year after which it will be commissioned as PNS AlAMGHIR.

A comprehensive refurbishment of the ship will be undertaken under the supervision of US Navy which will be completed in Jan. 2011.

Succesful culmination of this contarct will also pave way for acquisition of more vessels of same class for Pakistan navy to raise a squadron of 8 Perry Class Frigates. This will greatly enhance operational readiness of Pakistan navy.

USS McInerney was the second ship of the Oliver Hazard Perry class of guided-missile frigates and first US Navy ship named for US Vice Admiral Francis McInerney (18991956).

In September 2008 the US Congress had approved selling the frigate to Pakistan with a delivery date of August 2010.

Pakistan is considered a major non NATO Ally and is able to receive older unneeded US military equipment.

Additionally, the 32-year-old frigate will be given a 65 million dollar refurbishment including anti-submarine capability paid for with foreign military aid provided by the U.S to friendly countries.

Pakistan will pay $78 million for 30-year-old frigate.

Isn’t the field of view rather restricted if the IRST is place under the intake or center line, especially for close in ranges? Although most other locations for IRST’s is near the nose cone section, I’ve wondered whether even this is restrictive. For example, as in the Mig-29, SU-30, Typhoon, where the IRST is located at the top of the nose section of the fuselage, that blocks the field of view for low level targets, and vice versa if the IRST is located on the underside of the nose for high level targets. Wouldn’t the ideal be to have two smaller IRST’s, one located on the underside and one on top, for complete forward hemisphere coverage?