What about all the British and French jet engines used in American aircraft post-war?

You could also argue that Russian jet engine technology is entirely due to us Brits handing over examples of Rolls Royce engines to the Russians…what was it that Stalin said…

“What fool will sell us his secrets?”

Quadbike, the IN eventually getting the F35C may be be a possibility, but that doesn’t mean it’s confirmed, certainly not at this early stage, which is what you keep on saying. Considering the length of time we are talking about here, anything could change, delays in the IAC, shifting IN requirements, geopolitics, the JSF members fulfilling their own orders first…etc, etc…just too many factors at the moment.

Its on offer for the Indian Navy. And Pakistan will never be offered the F 35 anyway 🙂

WTF?! Who mentioned anything about Pakistan?! How sad, pathetic and immature! If you feel the need to denigrate another country to relieve your body functions, so be it. No need for me to burst your wet dream, I’m sure the indian carriers will be on budget, on time and according to expectations…just like virtually every other indian defence project. Moreover, I’m sure the world will stay static for you and global political trends will continue as they, not to mention the indian MoD becoming more efficient and timely when ordering defence equipment.

Why worry when we are getting F 35 C on our next carrier. 😉

Is that confirmed or wishful thinking?

Thanks for the pics. They’ve gone back to using the box type VLS launcher, from the previous cylinder type VLS launcher. Possible SLCM and land based varients perhaps?

Check the 1 attachment. Seem to have dual bomb rack in the center fuselage pylon :

Very interesting, thanks for those. I think that last pic must be the first one I’ve seen where all 4 fuselage hardpoints are occupied (5 if you count the centre line tank as well).

Tomcat ? How is the Su 27 an exact copy of that ? It don’t even look similar 🙂

I was being fecetious…twin fins, wide spaced podded engines, central lifting body fuselage, large radar, long range missile…

Dooh, read my post again.:(
The MKI did very good vs all Teens in Red Flag 2008.
While we will never know the exact outcome of those BFM manuveres that took place over at Mountain Home and Nelis. It is clear the MKI was matched with and against both the F-16 and F-15C.
My point beeing, the MKI is a twin seater with the extra drag, so how come it perform so great against singel crew jets like F-16 and F-15C?
Answer: If we take the US pilot statement, those Su-27UB imported from Ukraine, he says the UB has a very similar feel and is performing equal or better than F-15C. So the extra drag cant be that significant.
So there goes your ‘High drag’ out the window.:rolleyes:

Read my post again…what parameters are you basing those statements on?

As I tried to imply, the extra drag of the high stepped tandem seating arrangement is offset by high thrust engines (which require the extra internal fuel capability), and TVC controls for greater turning agility. Go look up the range of the SU-30MKK and compare with the SU-30MKI, see what difference even canards can make in terms of drag.