Wouldn’t it make more sense in the long run to keep those additional airframes and just rotate them between reserve and active duty ?
I don’t see any new procurements in the coming years and by rotating them Portugal could keep the F-16 longer in service without expansive service life extensions…
Well, they will rename every unit into “Taktisches Luftwaffengeschwader”. No Jagdgeschwader, Jagdbombergeschwader oder Lufttransportgeschwader anymore.
Status of Wittmund is unclear at the moment I think, because in the planned structure they are understrength, eg. only one squadron and not a full wing.
Hope that helps.
Woah, all that is demonstrated by this is that
1: German pilots can’t keep their mouth shut. 😡
2: WVR is to be avoided. (technological advantage is massively reduced at arms lenght. That is true since the invention of spears and slings.)
WVR isn’t exactly what the Raptor is made for. The dogfighting part should be done by the cheaper and more expandable platforms in the USAF.
In short EADS antenna, Selex backend/repositioner.
I hope we see this time a watertight contract and a number behind that “minor degradation in mean-time between failure”
oh, the X-35 is not an airplane? lol
Or the modified F-16 test airframe with DSI…
Luftwaffe:
Reduction to three fast jet wings (but 3 instead of 2 squadrons each)
-Laage (3 sqd Eurofighter)
-Nörvenich (2 sqd Eurofighter, 1 sqd Tornado)
-Lechfeld (2sqd Eurofighter, 1 sqd Tornado)
Close Holloman
Forget about transfering CH-53’s from army aviation to airforce, no NH90, just a small number auf Merlins for CSAR.
Reduce airlift to two wings, Penzing + Wunstorf.
Unless it gains a lot of weight in development, the Kongsberg JSM would be an excellent fit for the Typhoon since its roughly in the same category as the Marte-ER. A Typhoon with CFTs and possibly heavier drop tanks carrying four JSMs-that’s some stand-off strike capability :diablo:!!
And why would any Eurofighter nation buy military hardware from Norway ? Maybe the Saudis won’t care about staged fighter competitions, but the original partner nations better should.
I wouldn’t bet on that.
May this have something to do with the words “export clearance”, “Saudi Arabia” and “UK Paveway IV” ?
one thing I find surprising is that tendency to consider “useless” anything that “we” don’t have.
The french are the only ones to have a missile that acts as an IRST complement to its weapons system, and we see quite often people from other parts of the world claiming “it’s useless”… If it was, why would the french spend millions on developing such a system? It’s not like they are new to fighter business and have no clue what it is all about… What’s more, Does anyone here consider France as such a rich country that they can just throw away money as they have too much on their hands anyway?
For now, they use it as such, and seem quite happy with it (even if, as always, everybody would like a bit more, a bit better, and so on), so maybe there is an interesting use for it…
It is a cheap interim solution, until the new IRST is available. If it would be such a wonderful thing as you claim, nobody would talk about developing a next gen IRST for Rafale.
And Shiv, cool story. So really the aircraft with all the support assets on it’s side wins in a theorectical engagement ? Unbelievable ! :p
While there are plenty of Tornado crews around there are not enough plastic *** ahem Typhoon pilots yet.
Retraining the crews would be expansive and inefficient. By the way ASSTA isn’t anything to write home about. So no biggy.
By the way German Tiffies will never get involved in any armed conflict anyway.
Upjever will close shop with Phantom retirement, Erding will follow as soon as Tornado retires –> no expertise left to keep the remaining toy up in the air without civil contractors. Big no no for anything that could be described with the evil word war.
With all that money thrown away for all those pointless east asian competitions, they could have integrated at least two weapons.
Now they throw away even more money for salesman, instead of product improvement.
😡
Presumably that one is big enough to be called a ‘Helicopter Destroyer Leader’?
If it has any credibility that image does also suggest which areas Japan would like UK input in following the idea of greater co-operation on defence projects.
GiveN some British input they will probably get called “through deck destroyers”.
:p
As is typical from you, you’re talking bollyhocks. The Saudi jets diverted to Saudi Arabia were Tranche 2, and so are the Austrian aircraft.
Well, the original contract for 18 aircraft was split between T1 and T2 examples (and later upgrade of T1 examples to T2 standart).
But that never happened. As it stands now, all the T2 airframes have been traded for used Luftwaffe T1 examples amd the total order reduced to 15.
In short, Austria operates a pure T1 fleet. (With all the associated issues with obsoleszences).
How do you arrive at the 50 mln € figure? German T2 examples are equipped with full DASS, spare the LWR and with the Sky Buzzer TRD instead of the Ariel.
LWR instead of RWR, my bad. The package price and the number of airframes are known. Back then the deal was celebrated as a negotiation succes of Struck in a Spiegel online article.
Both contracts in Euro and signed in roughly the same timeframe in their respective home markets.