Well, I don’t think it was the best decision. But it has a bit of a tradition in the UK, hasn’t it ?
Remember when the sea Harriers had been retired ? From my perspective not the best idea either, to scrap the most capable version of the jet.
I think Distiller is right, the Tornado fleet had been a better idea. The airforce still has the Tiffy, but naval aviation is the loser of this “review”.
Nimrods, the Harriers, the Ark.
For an Island nation as the UK, a strange decision from my perspective. Especially if the UK still tries to be a leader in naval capabilities within Europe. *shrug*
IIRC the last batch of F-16 procured by the US MOD came with a fly away price of ~15-20 mill.
Just take such a block 52, add one of the three AESA options, add DSI and one of the available engine options.
Everything tested and ready to go. Done.
What’s wrong with new build F-16 ? DSI has already been testet, AESA upgrades are available and the latest engines are excellent.
The aircraft is dirt cheap, and adding some of the “stealthy” external weapon containers as planned for the F-18 aren’t really magic.
Possibly prices and price of upgrades in future. Economics of scale is not good in the French offer, the other Eurobirds can get American weapons which are much cheaper, for Rafale weapons are expensive as well.
Not entirely true. At least not for a2g weaponry.
I think it would add a good amount of weight and reduce the aerodynamic efficiency of the intake if you try to hide the pegasus- not the best thing for an VSTOL aircraft.
Nethertheless I would love a Harrier with DSI, one-piece canopy, diamond wing and V-tail. 😀
If latest news are correct, Boeing already dropped the canted tails from the SE.
And what exactly leads you to believe the Australian order for F-35A helps to guesstimate the costs of the British F-35B ?
Granted, politics are important, but in my opinion the Indians just want a western aircraft with as much tech transfer as possible, for their own delayed programs.
An here the Rafale Team has more to offer. Most important a perspective for the future, with a clear development path.
Germany, Italy and Spain are lightweigts in international politics. And the UK is on the best way to lose it’s status.
No army and airforce to speak of, but at least they will have 2 carriers. Maybe carriers without aircraft, but who cares, they will be the biggest ships in Europe. :p
Therfore I see no political advantage for the Tiffy.
The only small advantage I see in offset opportunities.
Why should Tiffy win ? No AESA, not carrier capable plus Italy and The UK already defected into the JSF camp.
Ah, so the IAF prefers the best performing designs with the best growth potential. Now that is quite a surprise !
On the other hand they don’t decide what they get. There is the MoD, the treasury and the prime minister.
Jsut remember what happened to the A-330 MRTT. It was canceled after it was officially declared as winner.
And if you read between the lines, this could as well mean “give us them EPE engines and a good price Mr. Obama”.
There is a problem with your calculation. Canadians didn’t buy B models. The -B will be by far the most expansive.
One compromise could be to switch to the F-35C and fit cats to the carriers.
Almost, but why MiG-25 over MiG-31 ?
Well, look at the timeframe. And then compare the -25 to it’s peers. The Americans developed new materials, lubricants, fabrication methods and what not for the YF-12. It became that expansive, they never put it in to serial production.
The Russians toasted some titanium tubes and panels together and called it a day.
And still, it caused some kind of hysteria in western media. I just like simple solutions ;-).
I have quite a different view on the topic.
The only two aircraft that really fit the bill are the Rafale and Shornet.
Both can be operated from the next Indian carrier.
Both improve overall fleet efficiency with their jamming capabilities like no other contender.
Both fulfill the self-escorting strikefighter role like no other contender.
Both have armed forces behind them that are actually commited to further development. (Maybe Gripen can compete here)
Who wins in the end depends on tech transfer and the quality of the offered Growler light in my opinion.
Personal choice would be Rafale. Integrated with cheap US PGM’s + French weaponry as alternative choice + commonality with M2K at least weapons wise.
F-14 for western designs
MiG-25 for eastern designs
and F-108 as winner of the what if section
I’m not talking about existing tech. I’m talking about man(brain-)power.
EADS and Saab have a big question mark after Gripen and Typhoon.
EADS even more so, Saab is at least involved in Neuron.
And there are still aircraft to replace. For example, in the timeframe 2020-2025 Germany has to replace 68 Tornados. And there is no domestic programme for a 5th generation ground pounder.
Belgium has yet to decide which aircraft will replace their F-16. Finnland may not be that firm in the JSF camp, either.
There are opportunities for an affordable 5th generation multirole jet.
Europe lacks the interest to develop an own 5th gen. airframe. And those engineers that work now on the Eurocanards will need a job.
Brainpower at fire sale prices.