good thing the An-70 is Ukranian . . .
The design is Ukrainian. Many of it’s components are sourced from Russian suppliers, which could pose some problems.
Maybe it is worth noting that the party Bartels belongs to just dropped to 21% in the latest elections for European parliament. A coincidence ?
Hm, comes close to the planned numbers of the Italian AF. 121 Typhoon + 150 JSF. :p
Officially there were problems with integrating “mission specific equipment”.
Now Eurocopter proposed a second attempt with NH 90 or EC 725, which Eurocopter could deliver within two years.
Well, Eurocopter failed at integrating satcom stuff and some other equipment. Leading to the official cancelling of the CSAR variant for the Luftwaffe.
Now there isn’t much official yet, but it seems we either see a second attempt for a CSAR NH 90 or outright purchase of Super Pumas.
Officially the MoD is “talking with the industry”.
Same with the Marine. The favourit here seems to be the H 92.
Well, the German Seakings operate mostly as SAR birds. They don’t fit in any frigate hangar. But they can land on our frigates.
This means if we decide to go for Merlins as replacement, we would have to strengthen the landing decks of our frigates.
However, the larger cabin and the safety of an additional engine as well as the better range would be well worth it.
Similar things apply to CSAR birds for the Luftwaffe. The NH 90 is not seen as a good choice anyway for that requirenment, and rumors say we could opt for Super Pumas/Cougars instead.
I would rather buy Merlins.
Now to the British side. For the Seaking replacement same as for Germany. I think the Merlin is the best replacement.
Leaves the troop transport/medium utility helicopter. Here you could either go with a small production batch of (yet to launch) AW 149 or with the defacto standard medium weight helicopter in Europe, with all the logsitic advantages. As bonus the NH 90 offers bit better performance and a ramp.
In the end we would see more NH90 and EH 101 beeing produced, strenthening their position in the market.
Why would we do that? That adds a new helicopter into each countries air forces and the NH90 and Merlin effectively do the same job so it’ll replicate capability. The industrial benefits wouldn’t be that great either, since the UK would end up doing less of the workload. I can’t see any advantages of that one at all.
Well, higher production numbers for both, NH 90 and EH 101. In my opinion the Merlin would be a better Sea King replacement for both countries, while the NH 90 seems to be a popular choice in the medium weight category.
Producing a tiny number of AW 149 seems to be less diserable to me, then producing a similar number of EH 101.
Hm, yes, I guess it is just the CG. The AW 139 doesn’t look that flimsy.
Edit: what I would like to see is a deal between Germany and the UK. UK takes NH-90 for their medium helicopter requirenment, and we order Merlin for CSAR (Luftwaffe) and as Seaking replacement (Marine).
Not gonna happen, but one can dream.
Considering the AW 149: There are so many windows in this design, that doesn’t look like a military helicopter. I mean putting some kevlar or ceramic plates for ballistic protection seems to be more of an issue then in case of “real” military helicopters.
How is the experience in the UK with their Merlins ? Most things I read about it and it’s variants are negative reports about quality issues and low availability.
Just two examples:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2004/10/20/cormorant_ground041020.html
http://www2.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=f2bb3c5f-8663-4987-bab2-0d598d126052&k=84953
And I don’t see how Eurocopter could produce them fast enough. Are those quality problems with the merlin solved ?
If I’m not totally wrong, those guys belong to the so called fighter mafia. And they didn’t have to say anything positive about any US fighter programme in the last 20 years.
I think the most fitting name had been Thunderbolt. :p
The German military was pretty much pro An-70. Only fears of becoming user of an orphan aircraft swung the pendulum towards the A-400M. (And political lobbying of course).
Edith: I find it quite funny, that people celebrate this as if one of the european contenders had won the MMRCA deal.