AFAIK most AMRAAM’s for east Asian customers are stored in Guam. Would be interesting to know where the weapons for mid eastern countries are stored.
Despite the uncertainty of naval engagement range, all the Brits need now is the longest A/A hit/kill. The RAF ruffled the feathers/surprised the USAF at Red Flag 14-1 when Typhoons were claiming A/A kills much greater than was previously thought, so maybe the opportunity isn’t very far away.
Typhoon + Meteor should do the trick, if necessary.
The F-35B has the highest British workshare between all variants.
Imho core of the issue we have here is lack of reliable informations. Perfect conditions for the tinfoil crowd. The US government was very quick to blame the rebels, citing anonymous intelligence sources. Not very convincing considering their history of “reliable intel”. If they had found a smoking gun, they would provide the evidence. Same for the rebels. If they had evidence the Ukranian army had shot down the plane, they would be quick to provide it.
My personal opinion: the separatist were not combat ready yet, but given they are in full retreat just “did something”. This something turned out to be a horrible mistake. Maybe the even had only the launcher vehicle with the fire control radar.
However, questions remain: if there was such reliable intel the separatists obtained Buks, why wasn’t the airspace closed over separatist held territory ? The NATO reports that were digged up don’t mention specific systems, just “advanced SAMs”.
Do you really think there is internet in the front lines? This is war there, not military exercise. They are under constant bombardment from Ukrainian artillery and air force. Also there is encircled Ukrainian army near and Ukrainian transport planes drop supplies to them too. There is no excuse, that someone allow airliner with 300 civilians to fly over war zone with intensive air battle, where An-26 and Su-25 were shot down. It doesn’t matter in which altitude it fly, in such circumstances it absolutely must not fly there. One side in war doesn’t guaranty safety, so it must not be there. Only question is, if airliner was there by accident, or someone intentionally send it there and risk lives of 300 civilians for some political bonuses, because he knows well, that such thing will happened during heavy battles.
It’s not about trigger-happy psychos. No one will expect airliner in the middle of air battles in war zone. Also IFF in TELAR only show if plane is friend or foe.
Airspace is 3-dimensional. Lower flightlevels have indeed been closed. Cargoplanes dropping supplies don’t fly at the altitude and speed. Plus, Ilyushins and Antonows are easy to distiguish from a large twinjet like the 777. As Swerve already wrote, it is nothing special to fly over a war zone. But then again, usually poorly trained rag tag militias don’t get their hands on high performance SAMs.
Condolences to the families.
Yes and no. Under the original contract, they would have been kept current by EADS. Then a social democrat came into office as minister for sports and defense. The issue: he was the mind behind the campaign to cancel the contract. Since the contract was watertight, he couldn’t cancel. The next best thing for him was a reduction in numbers, from 18 to 15, and instead of delivery of some T1 (later to be refitted to T2 at the expense of EADS) and some T2 he got all T1, partly used aircraft from Germany. (basically the oldest ones the Luftwaffe had). Now all those were downgraded to a special Austrian standard. Savings: 170 mio Euro the lefty mod could present as “success”.
After some time the Austrians found out, that this new contract signed by the lefty mod left Austria in the cold when it came to software support and spare parts. Their special snowflake aircraft were more expansive to maintain then more capable aircraft of the partner nations. In short: the Austrians had to pay for an update, that brought their aircraft to “normal” T1 standard.
In the end they paid more for less capable, partly used 15 airframes instead of the original 18 new T2 aircraft.
How usefull are 15 airframes ? (after the Saab 105 is gone). Such low numbers just can’t generate the necessary flight hours to keep a 24/7 QRA + pilot training.
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Given that this was the usual loadout over Libya, I’d guess what we see in the picture above + some PW IV on the inner wing stations.
Well, it at least tells us a lot about the capabilities (or lack thereof) of Ukrainian forces. So far they failed to take out rebel check points with pgm’s. A capability the Soviet Airforce already possessed in the early 80ies.
Let me get this right Aurel, you are calling the F-16 which is the most successful fighter jet to be fielded in the West in the last thirty to forty years with a production run of over 4500 and over 74 air to air kills for no loss a “Lemon”?
Really?
How about this: I offer you an AMG S66, but you are only allowed to drive it on 4 spare wheels, which allow 50 km/h max speed. Of course I want the full price plus a “minor” fee. Interested ?
The first F16 has flown. Its an F16D, Block 52. Sadly it has the “new” roundel.
But at least they haven’t ordered any more of them! slowly sanity is reaching the Iraqi Ministry of Defence…
I don’t think so. Iraqi government obviously likes second rate crap. I have no other explanation for ordering MiG-29 when Sukhois were available. There is not a single international customer satisfied with after sales support for their MiG. And no support structure or expertise in the country to give the MiG-29 considerable advantages in that field. What makes the Iraqis think they are a special case ? In the end a great job from the Iraqi government. Supplementing a lemon with a lemon.
Certainly good news with a possible sale to the UAE in mind. IIRC L band jamming was one of their requirenments.
http://www.thelocal.se/20140424/sweden-plans-to-get-cruise-missiles-for-defence
What is the story behind this ? I thought KEPD 350 has already been qualified for use on the Gripen C ?
The benefit of forcing them to an open competition is that LM won’t be able to decide the price it wants, it will have to submit an offer that is going to be compared to its competitors, and it will be harder for them to milk the canadian government. I’m sure they will somehow, but it will be tougher, and they probably are going to have to grease more hands.
So yes it’s a victory to for its competitors insofar as its going to strip them from some cash that could be used to give some other customer a discount to get an advantage in some other market.
Nic
How do you come to this surprising conclusion ? LM will ask whatever price they want and the Canadians will pay it. See Korea. Where Boeing did “win” just to get told it’s going to be F-35 anyway even if the fatty isn’t within budget.
I would take the engines too.
Why ? The current M-88 is at least as good as the EJ-200 and comes with lower IR signature.