Would You know anything about the J-10’s history, then You would know that no J-10 was build with a lavi-style intake.

This “aircraft” seen here – by the way the same configuration as in the first image of Your previous post – is the first full-scale mock up build around the WP-15. It was already the largerer aircraft in comparison it finally evolved into but due to the AL-31FN a new intake and a shortened rear fuselage was necesary.

All other models are nothing more than simple desk-top models build to show some politicians … we all (maybe not all) know by Song Wengcong himself how the J-10 evolved from the J-9.

But I can understnd that its sometimes hard to give up a long beloved and believed thruth, which finally crashes.

So much on trolling ….
Deino

If you are referring to the WP-15 as in the R-13 clone, then it would not make sense to “shorten” it for the Al-31 because the R-13 is shorter than the Al-31.
hostility to those who dont agree with you is a fan boy makes.

Obviously the fact that those legacy fighters were operated in limited number by small countries or by ill equipped and ill trained third world armies had no impact at all.

right. but in a third world vs third world scenario, the Flanker did pretty well.
Ethiopian Su-27s raped Eritrean MiG-29’s hard in the butt.. it was soo hard that Eritrea went limping back and bought Su-27s instead of more MiG-29s after the war!

Agree with all those who say that India should carry on with the deal. IMO it was the wrong decision to have Gorshkov rebuilt, but it’s too late to reconsider. Any alternative would take much longer & cost much more than fixing Vikramaditya.

it would be very foolish to stop the Gorshkov at this late a stage, but it would be very wise that once its fixed and transferred to the Indians.. that they sell it to the Brazilians at a higher cost..win-win for Indiana. :diablo:

The small size is also F-35’s greatest shortfall.

some say that’s the LCA/Tejas’ greatest shortfall as well!

can there ever be a Gripen sized stealth aircraft or is there a minimum size 5th gen aircraft limited to?

You gonna pay Irkut for it?

Mistral gift is enough I think 😉 .

Russia will silly! its a nice way for Russia to thank France for sending their men to help Russia. Besides. those alpha jets need to be replaced anyways.

Urgh.

The clowns that scream “COPY” are best ignored. They’ve obviously no f**king idea just how complex one of these machines is and how challenging they are to design.

you obviously have no idea just how complex copying is.