that is the old models C101 and C102, this is the newest one C103.
no room for a bay with that config and external pod

re uploading the pics of C103

Well the Russians have never sold their best military exports to China. So it must say something that they’re willing to sell it to China.

That is correct, that’s why they are not selling the Pak-fa, but the Su-35 to China. Duh.

Pinko,

OK so you dont have any proof its an AESA beyond ‘its common knowledge’ you could have just said that.

Your view is that PLANs preferred AAW solution is a low-mounted large panel AESA plus a masthead basic horizon-search mechanical rotator. An arrangement configured to address a primary high-altitude/BMD threat tasking when there is no apparent high-alt/TBM threat that justifies it. OK.

T45. Dont confuse BAE’s official statements with Beedalls analysis. The requirement for T45 was to have a radar mounted at a specific height, at a specific frequency band, to provide a specific zone of coverage. Mounting 4 panels at 150ft masthead means widening the ships beam to maintain stability. More beam increases hydrodynamic drag and means more propulsive force to keep speed performance. Putting 4 panels on then increases costs dramatically more than the price of two additional panels. It means, very simply, a bigger ship!. Your insinuation was that the cost of the panels alone was too much which is simply inaccurate.

haven’t you realized by now Jones. Chinese fanboys operate by rules of exceptionalism, where assumptions, guesstimates, and pictures are enough proof, and where the wests’ military experience doesn’t apply.

more nice pics of Kazakhstan’s air force.. or in other words.. the air force of Russia’s “Canada”

I see passion here! oh oh…. someone’s in loooove! You are, aren’t you?eheh

Oh…. And i’m also astonished by your objective and assertive comments and remarks about Portugal. What a brilliant mind we have here, gents! Please keep on!! 😀

As Sintra very well said, we put 10 Fs for sale in 2005 iirc. At the time, and even now, this might have been seen as a bad decision in theory but in practice it doesn’t change a lot for what the reality has been. Operating a 40-a/c fleet would cost what the AF didn’t have in 2005 (or 2000!) not to talk about in a 2012 in crisis! Also, who needs planes when you don’t have pilots? It’s been hard to reach the actual numbers which is still less than the number of planes in both squadrons. I believe the strategic goal remains the same: assure air control in Portugal with 2 aircraft in QRA and have 12 Fs assigned to NATO’s IRF, iirc. So, 30 F-16s are just fine for that.

And the timing for selling these is now! When F-35 begins replacing Vipers across Europe (Netherlands, Norway, Turkey, and whoelse that may go in that direction) there will be a lot of 2ª hand fighters on the market for east european countries to buy (Slovenia, Slovakia, Croatia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania, etc etc etc).

Regarding Romania, buying these ex-FAP jets are the best way forward. And the sooner they buy it the better! These 10 F-16s can form an OCU before future purchases are made from other countries (all F-16 MLU are identical). When that happens (lets say in 2018/2020) the Romanians would already have some experience in operating a 4,5th-generation multi-role fighter. It could save some of the remaining hours of the LanceR fleet, making their use more efficient untill that timeframe. Don’t know if they have sufficient funds for that though.

Abraços!

at the moment, Bulgaria has a more threatening air force than Portugal

The PAKFA was blamed for no single piece canopy so far, however nobody has ever been thinking the reason, why?
Is that an unreachable tech or merely Russian don’t care RCS? I bring the question to the new episode and be waiting for watching those brainless baloney.

its just a prototype. X-35 had a two frame canopy.
Pak-fa’s canopy looks similar to the X-32 one

F-32 would’ve had a one piece

Good luck fitting 4 R37 or Kh58 in a J20 if this pic is anything to go by.

Nic

and do you think the Pak-fa could carry 4 Kh58 in its bay assuming the Su-47 bay is the same one?

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http://www.interfax.co.uk/russia-military-news/talks-under-way-over-su-35-fighter-jets-to-china-agency/

Initial hurdle earlier in the year resolved.. sale of Su-35 continues! hooray for China