Are we still playing this interceptor game? Wing area is approximately 68,69 m^2 (length 19.36m, satellite pictures and J-10 length without pivot tube). The aircraft, if scaled from the F-35C, is about 30,400kg loaded.

This comes out to 440kg/m^2 wing loading.

It looks a bit high, but then you have to note that the Chinese don’t really seem to get sustained turn rates and many of their aircraft tend to have high wing loadings. It’s not necessarily a bad thing; the YF-23 had better wing loading, thus better sustained turn rates, than the YF-22, and was rejected for having poor instantaneous turn rates. Same applies to LCA Tejas; it looks as though it should be ridiculously maneuverable due to sub-300 wing loadings, but it’s actually a clunker due to being delta-winged without LEVCONs or canards.

what about the wing loading of the F-14

Perhaps it would be best for Serbia to buy squadron of MiG-21 Bison from India as they are looking to phase them out by 2014.
It should not be expensive, easy to maintain, lots of spare parts and lots of qualified people already in the place.
It would also give Serbian AF capability to use modern weapon systems like R-73, R-77, LGB’s and so on. It comes with sort of modern cockpit and modern A-A and A-G radar and thy can use all the A-A weapons in current Serbian AF inventory like R-60, 27.
Not latest in technology, but hey, beggars cannot be choosers.

doesn’t Serbia already have MiG-21s? cant they just send it to Russia for the same upgrades?

MiG-21 bisons should provide an edge over Serbia’s current MiG-29 force.

Israel wins right to put Israeli stuff in F-35. Proclaims that the Kosher F-35 is best variant
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/israel-wins-f-35-equipment-battle-with-usa-374839/

They call them Hellducks now do they?:confused: Don’t the Ukrainians offer a destroyer called Gayduck?:cool:

As long as they don’t start calling a weapon system deadduck, I don’t see why not…

Do not underestimate the Ukranian ship… it will get you from behind when you least expect it

Im still curious to see what it is as it seems much to big to be just a trainer.

Chinese airplanes tend to be big. See J-20, J-10, etc. probably an issue due to the types of Engines they use.

on the other hand.. why would a trainer need to have LO characteristics?

but then again that didn’t stop EADS

This video is pretty self-explaining, the Viper pilot wildly checking his six o`clock the whole engagement time with the Mig always circling around his ass. Mig pilot with Darth Vader’s calmness and coldness, but sometimes pulling too much as you can hear the SOS-3 clicking sound, killing the F-16 several times just by looking at it. Then suddenly Viper pilot is cheering for something, LOL. I think it is bcs Mig pilot yelled over the radio Bingo fuel. :D:D:D

thats pretty much why Ethiopian Flankers pounded Eritrean Fulcrums in their derriers. They caught them retreating turning back to base due to bingo fuel. But now Eritrea has Flankers as well.

Yes it does give an FoxBat, FoxHound feel..
Interesting, and quite revealing Airframe/wing proporsions.

Nice work MSphere

Harvey, you are right again! when comparing the size of the crew next to the airplane, J-20 seems to be roughly as big as the MiG-31