Anyway, here an interesting article from 2008 for Italy to show how Slovak MiGs are “going to be phased out soon”.
12 upgraded MiG-29s are enough for us
Slovak Army has available 12 modernized supersonic MiG-29. The latter now minister of defense Jaroslav Baška the ceremony at the airbase Sliač to use the operating forces. Two of the two-seater training aircraft MiG-29UBS, is ten single-combat MiG-29AS. Modernization, which consisted mainly in the improvement of communication system and installing a new navigation system, to ensure compatibility of their systems with the resources of the North Atlantic Alliance. Apparatus as speedometer or altimeter switch from metric to imperial extent, which meant the biggest drivers for psychological change in the management of fighters.
Modernization also brought a complete change of system maintenance and operation of aircraft in operation bezgenerálkovú. Fighters will be on each flight using sensors and diagnostic systems evaluated and damaged units will be continuously exchanged. Modernized fighters are theoretically capable of operating up to the years 2035 to 2040.
As stated by Chief of General Staff of the Armed Forces Lubomir Bulik, 12 fighters are still sufficient to fulfill military operational functions at national and international level, with a further upgrade is therefore not count in the near future. According to the National Armaments Director of the Ministry of Defence Stanislav Szabo was to start upgrading MiG-29 in 2004 for this purpose so far invested 1.6 billion Slovak crowns.
He noted that the term of operation of modernized MiGs in 2040, is only theoretical, according to realistic assumptions would thus modernized aircraft can be deployed in an operational 10 to 15 years. “Right now we do not consider the further modernization of MiG-29, but we expect the completion of modernization of helicopters Mi-17, “said Szabo. Modernized four helicopters to be Aviation search and rescue (LPZS) Armed Forces.
Modernization has already passed the first of four Mi-17. It has equipment for night vision, thermal, search and retrieval Finding, on-board crane equipment with Anglo-Saxon measurements. In time of peace will be upgraded helicopters to perform search and rescue, not only for the military, but also for the Integrated Rescue System of SR. They are designed for search and rescue people in need, commitment to natural disasters, air transport of persons and materials, transport of wounded, and the implementation výsadkov years optical survey
http://www.topky.sk/cl/10/217996/12-zmodernizovanych-MiG-29-nam-staci
holy 2008s! and since then they underwent a different modernization program in 2009 called the Model 2020 program that seeks to replace the MiG-29s.
Look at the global trends: everyone is going heavy, or at least heavier than ever before. USAF/PLAAF/RuAF don’t even have modern light fighter programs; hell, the F-35 barely even qualifies as a ‘medium’ fighter!
that is true.. it could be that a mixture of UCAVs, UAVs, long range surface to air missiles, and light trainers/lift types taking over the “lo” end of the hi-lo spectrum.
A statement founded in ignorance. The Turkey was a terrific airframe encumbered by a poor engine in the A models and a Navy uninterested in its development throughout its service history. Had the airplane had the updates and mods lavished on it the USAF gave the F-15, it would have been capable of meeting any threat today (as the Eagle and Strike Eagle have proven). Rather it languished as the red haired stepchild of NAVAIR … they wouldn’t even spend the money to release the (developed) software to make it AMRAAM capable.
I realize this is a late post, but I couldn’t resist answering Mr. Knowitall. R/CP
Indeed, maintainance and operating costs aside..F-14D continued upgrades would’ve made it a viable fighter today still. Well all hope is not lost. perhaps when Iran goes through a regime change and installs a pro-west leader.. there’sa chance they want to go to Europe or the US to upgrade their F-14s with AESA and all that stuff.
(again the original requirement was for single engined M2Ks, which I find hard to believe has suddenly changed to twin engined heavies due to strategic reasons. …
The Rafale is nearly the same size as the F-16E and weights slightly less!
The Rafale is 15.2m in length and weighs 9500kg empty
the F-16E is 15m in length and weighs 9800kg empty..
now the MiG-35 is 17.3m in length and 11000kg empty. in that way would you consider the Mig a heavy fighter?
they are mean looking like German ships.
Vietnam could use a few of these for coastal patrols.
Which F-4 had inferior radar (there were many types of F-4)?
Although I can imagine that the MiG-23 might be a better air defence, intercept aircraft than the 29 – if I can believe that the MiG-23 had significantly better range and endurance than the MiG-29?:confused:
using wiki
mig 29 ferry range with 1 drop tank 2100km
mig 23 ferry range (unknown drop tanks?) 2820km
According to the 32 page Soviet Air Force supplementary air combat manual called Aide-Memoire for the MiG-23 Pilot on Air Combat vs F-15A, F-I6A, F-4E and Kfir C.2, the F-4 in question is F-4E. Same manual also claims MLD radar performance equal to F-16A
If i just may..
It looks to me as the Yak-130 allready have all the right stuff to fullfill the light fighter/attack role.
It even seen some new missiles tested, probably some A2G weapons as well.Now the question is this;
Have the M-346 evolved/matured enough for such a role?
What radars do the Yak-130 plan to use that would allow it to have a more comprehensive air to air coverage? I remember this being floated around for the Yak
and what’s the range of the Yak-130 vis a vis Su-25 and MiG-29?
Yak as an air defense fighter could be very viable and cheap for countries that just do air policing and escorting.. i.e. Austria, perhaps Kyrgyzstan, Burundi, etc.
M-346 has been associated with Grifo and Vixen radars but its just talk it seems. weapons integration isn’t as far along as Yak-130.
In what way was N008 better than N001?
Firm numbers please.MiG-23 needed less to take off and land, due to variable wings. It’s landing characteristics as far as the pilot was concerned were absolutely not better.
N008 – detection 80km, track 50km MBTF 60hrs
N019 – is the radar MiG-29 used not N001. detection range 50-70km, track 30-60
http://toad-design.com/migalley/index.php/jet-aircraft/mig29/mig29-n019-radar/
No you couldn’t. Flown by veteran pilots against rookie Fulcrum jocks, maybe. Otherwise it was inferior in almost every regard, and was certainly not better in terms of radar. If the bird was smaller, radar would not have met VVS requirements.
Inferior in turn and agility yes but the MiG-23MLD had a superior radar, better acceleration, and better landing and handling characteristics. The N008E Sapfir-23MLAE-2 was superior (either in range or ability to look down or shoot down) than the F-4’s radar and even the early F-16’s radar, under nose under-nose TP-26-Sh IRST. Based on ACIG info, the Syrians prefer using the 23 over the 29 for interception duties.
RuAF ordered 12 in the first batch, 55 in the second, and the 3rd for another 10 is nearly signed. Also, they are likely to buy the formerly Libyan birds.
That being said what’s the point of a separate Yak-130 thread when there is the RuAviation one?
because it does not deal with the westernized Yak-130, the M-346. Its about the twins my tasty friend.
so RuAF total is for 77 not 200?
Not really, because they are not in need of a VTOL variant or COTBAR one of that.
Korea, Japan, and China’s other fighters are all single engined. J-10, F-2, FA-50, etc. this new aircraft could require thrust in the J-10 and F-2 range.
The platform it is resting on is still pretty ridiculous. Is it still parading around China for theater purposes?
12m length…probably a carrier trainer. Not likely to be a “stealth aircraft”
platform is ridiculous, yes. many other aircraft that have been transported by truck are not angled.
12m in length? probably not. definitely looks longer. 12m is roughly the size of the M-346 trainer.
the nose looks too blunt to be either the L-15 or that F-60 model.
perhaps it’ll be powered by two RD-93 or RD-33
Well the Slovakian MiG’s hours are starting to pile up nicely, and overhaul and upgrade is expensive and they will have the same dilemma 10 years down the line if they upgrade now. Gripen is cheap enough to operate and the Swedes would probably offer favourable rates if their aircraft was chosen on a lease deal. Hungary is the same as above and Malaysia has rivals go worry about so they need to stay cutting edge if they can help it.. Another batch of flankers would be ideal, and in 10 years upgrade the whole fleet to the Indian super 30 standard.
right, the short life span of the classic MiG-29 presents many challenges for air forces down the line. But you could say that about many Soviet era aircraft.
Don’t tell me. I was curious after an article at “Flug Revue” where it was stated that it’s not able to do so
By the way: F-2 never deployed to a place where they need air-to-air refueling
Japan has a huge EEZ, lots of need for air to air refuelling (ignore the claims on the Russian islands on that map)
No one has mentioned that it has a bit of a tail sting?
Carrier version? Or are the engine nozzles removed?
are you talking about the girl? i don’t see anything between the cheeks.
aircraft has no engine in it.