Whoever have larger radar.
CoP -?
CoG – ?
Cop- Center of pressure or aerodynamic center
CoG- Center of gravity.
The J-11D really interesting to me. Im curious about its AESA radar.
Looks to me like IFF just above that is the EO tracker.
Any one knows how EO Tracker works in BUK , Just incase the radars are jammed the EO can track and guide the missile ?
Well 2 possible options i think.
1.The radar is slaved to the EOTS. We know that Buk use SARH to guide missile..In event of ECM the EO will track the target and then send tracking data to radar, which will now serve only as SARH illuminator.
2.Same as no 1 However if the M3 use Active radar homing missile, the radar will only serve as command link antenna to transmit mid course to missile before switching to its own guidance.
No love for A-100? 😛
Full of gadgets and stuff. Looks like a pretty serious upgrade.
ooo. nice and PS-90 engine i see.
Looking at the radar array, it seems it still use similar system as E-3 (janus face). Im curious why Russia does not opt for fixed 3 face array like one in Indian A-50EI ?
Buk-M3 at Army-2016
Hmm what’s inside the smaller radome above the main fire control radar ? IFF or Sidelobe canceller ?
Yep.. rocket design textbook will give you what you need. Specific missile design textbook can give better insight like Eugene Fleeman’s Tactical Missile Design.
The ballpark figure however is about 250-270 seconds for solid propellant. While liquid can be higher. Ramjet powered can score about 1000-2000 seconds of ISp depending on flight condition.
Turbojet or turbofan powered missile can have 4000-5000 seconds of ISp
Oh yeah, cant f*cking wait for sh!t blogs like warisboring and foxrotalpha to have their field day with that.
In before “Russia cuts PAK-FA order down to 12 air-frames total” headlines make their way into the net 🙂 .
and i know some who will buy onto those ;w;
Digital processing cannot and will not solve the main problem of low frequency, which is very wide beam width
. This has to do with physics, the only way to reduce beam width at very low frequency is getting an enormous aperture, which can easily be detect on SAR mode of APG-81, EOTS or satellite picture
Is that even a problem ? That doesn’t stop the creation of Vostok, Nebo, etc.. Which can stow and go in 5-30 minutes. One exception is Nebo UE tho which need a day to pack.
Plus.. just how “wide” is this beamwidth.. Not every radar need high gain pencil beamwidth.. Pencil beamwidth is good for firecontrol But bad for search as the beam covers only small area Thus a scan need to be actually slowed down.
For early warning context, Fan beam is more desirable as it can quickly cover the required search area.
Wide beamwidth yes maybe.. but Digital processing and recent adoption of Active array technology solves many problem of older VHF radar types to the point that sufficient accuracy and reduced error box is available Thus allows cueing of other asset.
Regarding survivability that’s a whole concept of its own and will be too large to discuss. One thing for sure is that VHF band is immune to anti radiation missile.
The concept of bomber carrying AAM is kinda long. The purpose however was self defense and not to make it a flying arsenal ship.
Even in 1960’s there was Pye Wacket concept.
The concept appears to be no longer pursued but for the reason unknown, maybe they consider that the AAM and its associated targeting equipment will take too much space.
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Regarding B1-R tho. hmm interesting concept But.. unless new long range AAM developed, i think the B1-R will be the first to be picked on by enemy aircraft and destroyed before it can launch the deadly payload.
And when you go to lower frequency , RCS isnt the only thing that increase , your beam width will increase too ( aka your gain reduce )
Which is why our VHF Radar have large antenna. Unlike airborne based antennas. These VHF radars have space and have no weight restriction to have big antenna so they can have narrow beamwidth thus enough gain to be viable.
who is sean ol conor ?
He’s the real deal. real air defense expert.
He’s the owner of the Gemeint open source intelligence blog and was an active poster here, secretprojects and other aviation forum. Nonetheless We no longer have anything from him since he joined Janes and become contributor there.
This passage by Sean O’Conner always tickles me:
You know how i miss him dude..? in forum and in my emailbox.
we need Andraxxus.
and share his excel.
This may be a respected textbook, but I’d question the validity of that table, given that it contains radar-parameter data that in some cases (such as sidelobe info) will be classified. I suspect that many of the cited ‘values’ are guesstimates.
Yeah the author already stated. Based on Janes, and his own observation on airshows. So It’s very likely some values are guesstimates.
So yeah, validity can be questioned. Nonetheless i think it’s very good at starting point.
Janes on the AN/APG-71:
Err i think we are talkin about zaslon ?
Maybe that 5Kw average for APG-71/AWG-9 is for Velocity search only where range is not actually measured and PRF is so high (300 kHz)
My table from “Introduction to RF stealth p-266” rate Zaslon as 3 Kw in Average power, In Overscan’s page however it’s mentioned as 2.5 Kw.
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