I didn’t say that. I said if the missile fails to hit in the first attempt then it cannot pull of a few Gs and chase down the target again. Did you see this video? I do not have any other video handy, but the point that I am trying to make is well reflected in this video. If your missile fails to hit in its first attempt, it cannot hit that target again, ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA

Then shoot one more time.

Fair enough, but in that case you have to be the end user. How else can you get the variables for the equation? If you don’t mind sharing, I would like to see the math. Thanks.

Where were you when i posted Fleeman’s tactical missile design 2nd Edition book ? You can work the math yourself.

Download links
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jeofkq9csiu7fss/%28AIAA+Education%29+E.+Fleeman-Tactical+Missile+Design%2C+Second+Edition-AIAA+%282006%29.pdf

On subject of missile maneuverability. Based on the book I make myself a small spreadsheet for calculating the body buildup force for the missile. The variables and AOA for the missile are based on AMRAAM simulation result did by someone else.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/2uz1qmg2qumalih/msslmaneuverability.xlsx

Let’s see what you can make up from that book.

That’s how i do the math for missile design.

I realize their publicity material states that the R-60 can pull 40-60 G but it has never been proved. Anyway that can be said about advertisement made by any defense prime.

That said, even if the R-60 is fired from 10-20 Kms it still gives the enemy fighter enough time to carry out a hard turn and evade the R-60. Thereafter, it becomes extremely difficult for the R-60 to re establish a lock on and chase the target again. Even if it does establish a lock on, it is travelling at speeds of Mach 3 and above. Naturally at that speed it will run out of fuel before it reaches the target.

That’s the reason why MiG-31 carry 4 of these.

and there are no missiles ever, that use rocket propulsion that not run out of fuel before reaching target. Thus why we have concept of firing envelope.

Please note ,this applies not just for the R-60, but for its successor the Vympel R-73 and any other Air-to-Air missile or Surface to Air missiles fired by systems like PAC 3 or S-400. Plz do not let their publicity material convince you otherwise.

I can do my maths to get what i need. If you think i rely only on publications, then you are mistaken.

during the 80s it was said that the mig-31 can launch 4 missiles at 4 different targets so lets say 4 mig-31s are intercepting 2 attackers or fighter-bombers , can they launch 8 missiles at every target maximizing the chances of a hit ? since the SARH missiles had such a poor hit rate
( please consider this a 80s scenario with the basic R-33 model)

Well ESA illuminator such as Zaslon is apt to have higher hit rate as it can steer beam electronically. Thus it can provide enough illumination time for the R-33’s

Can someone explain why we see sometimes Foxhounds toting R-60 ?

I mean it`s a diametrically opposed weapon compared to Foxhounds main armament (range, guidance etc)

I dont think it`s for defence either since it has such a short range and on the merge any fighter would run circles around a MiG-31

It is for defense. The R-60 can pull very high G maneuver. It will do the turning for the MiG.

Im sorry I forgot that stealth doesn’t work Russia stronq! The Su-34s dont even need missiles. The Amraams bounce off the Russians fuselage. They alk achieve gun kills. Did I get it right now? 🙂

Are you even try to make a point ?

Im curious on the L005 Sorbitsya. Did it support Cross eye jamming mode ?

Browsed secret project forum for that but so far not conclusive.

Ohh … how much I hate these guys ! You are correct !

hmm so it’s a fake ?