I’ll stick with what swerve said, thanks.
So still no actual evidence then.:rolleyes:
To sum up Musashi is claiming that SM-3 is inaccurate and that the test results have been faked on the basis of a single seven year old news paper article, gives some idea of the lack of credibility of his claims.:mad:
Thanks for the info, guys. All fascinating stuff.
My lingering thought on the subject is that a Blackbird intercept mission would have been about as far from the classical concept of a ‘fighter’ as you could get: 1. Take off 2. Accelerate to cruise 3. Press buttons 4. Return to base (if base survived)…
Welcome to the world of the interceptor.;)
Ps. The F-108 Rapier in Mockup form.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:F-108_mockup.jpg
+ some history. http://www.alexstoll.com/AircraftOfTheMonth/7-01.html
Maybe it was a case of “2nd best tomorrow”, the Olympus was I think better developed at the time. Why did they then choose the Olympus for Concorde?
It must have had some merit above the Conway. Having seen the insides of the Conway I think there would have been a fair amount of rework needed to get it to work reliably at continuous supersonic speeds.
The Conway comes across as an engine that never quite lived up to expectations. The BS.100 was always intended for supersonic flight so it might have been a good option? An interesting side note, the BS.100 was at one time the most powerful jet engine in the western world!:eek:
So, you believe that cost has no factor in the selection of the F-35B. Further, that the F-35B is more capable and a better solution than a purely CTOL (CV) F-35C?????:confused:
When the V/STOL selection was first announced the only real reason given was ‘the RN’s unique experience in operating V/STOL types.’ Something which neglects the fact that that unique experience was brought about becouse CTOL was not regarded as affordable.:(
What’s an acceptable source for you – the Pentagon? The White House? 😀
Not a single seven year old news paper article.:p
Since the US military has been caught rigging tests of failing weapons to make them seem to work, when trying to stop programmes being axed (e.g. the Sergeant York AA gun), I’d hesitate before dismissing an accusation that it still happens as a “tin pot conspiracy theory”.
That was two decades ago.:rolleyes:
I don’t think that RR had a reheated Conway, I’ve never read anything about one. I do know that RR did design a con-di silencer nozzle complete with reverse thrust for the Olympus. This was at a time when BS was still independant. Further, the uprated Conway (201 series Victor) was not the most reliable engine around. it did suffer from a number of compressor failures (zero stage) in service. That would have made the marrying of a reheat unit more difficult and expensive to do.
I know that the Conway was suggested for the P.1121 so maybe there was an after burning version that made it at least to the paper stage?:confused: Surely a turbofan would have been a better option for TSR-2? If it was entirely critical that a BS engine be used for the TSR-2 then why not a straight through BS.100?:confused:
The reasons have been explained to you, several times, on this occasion & others. Whether the reasons are good is a legitimate matter for debate, but repeating the question, over and over again, long after receiving full & detailed answers, is pointless.
That was a bit harsh swerve. Scooter has a point, the CVF’s are intended as all out power projection ships, but instead of them being used to their full potential they will have to operate the less capable V/STOL F-35 and wont be able to use fixed wing AEW. All for the saving of a few pennys. What is truly frustrating is that the french will be building a very similar design with catapults.:(
Sorry, I don’t keep newspaper clippings from about 7 or so years ago. :p
However, there are a few articles out there.
Antimissile Testing Is Rigged to Hide a Flaw, Critics Say
So are you going to admit there was criticism of some of the original tests, or just dismiss it as “lies” or some such?
I said decent source not tin pot conspiracy theory.:rolleyes:
Could it just be a question of lack of a suitable application in the first half of the 60s to make the exercise worthwhile? Conway-engined 707s and DC-8s hardly sold like hot cakes, and BSE had enough on their plate with the vectored thrust Pegasus and the various Olympuses anyway.
I presume RR must also have pondered the idea, but its ten-tonne fan studies eventually went into the V2500 a few years later.
Anyone else know better?
That could be it. But I have always been intrigued as to why the Olympus got such a lot of applications. Surely something like the Conway or a straight through BS.100 would be better for the TSR-2 than the Olympus?:confused:
$7.3 billion?
That’s quite a chunk of change.
How much does a new USN CVN cost nowadays? US$3 billion?
How much would a carrier battle group cost?
F-22 – very nice piece of kit, but a tad pricey. 🙂
About 4.5- 5 billion actually.;) At 115 million it is not that pricey considering some of the numbers that have been thrown around in the past and the cost escalation seen by the Typhoon, Rafale and F-35.
Just a quick question, will the F-22 be able to carry the diamond back SDB?
Flying where at what speeds?!
Generic and hypothetical cruise missiles.
Thales seems to be advertising both on their website, or has the RC-400 been removed?
Hmmmmm, your right both seem to be on the website,:confused:
http://www.thalesonline.com/markets/Activities/Air-Forces/Airborne-Radar-Systems.html
What could have been, the gorgeous F-108 Rapier. The entire Mach-3 interceptor thing appeared in the mid to late 1950s with both the British and the Americans believing that the Soviets were going to be deploying a Mach-3 bomber in the sixties (the reason for this assumption seems to have been that the west was working on them- B-70 and Avro-730 respectively, therefore the Soviets must be as well). The result was the F-108 and YF-12A in the US and the F-155T requirement in the UK, ultimately none of these projects got anywhere. I must admit to having a particular fetish for the F-108 and an argument can be made that it would have been good for intercepting cruise missiles. I wonder how usable it would have been as a SEAD aircraft using the ARM version of the AIM-47?
Re: TMor
Darn Thales and aviation journalists!!! 😀
I read so many articles about Mk2 this and that…so whats this RDY3 now? A repackaged, powered up RC-400 as a lightweight RDY for light fighters..? So whats the point of the RC-400? Or is the RDY-3 a new RDY > RDY2.
Ok, any info about RBE-2, ranges, power outputs, TWS/detect numbers?
IIRC the RDY-3 is just an RC-400 with a different name. Obviously I would interested to know if thats not the case.