The amusing thing is that if most of you had your way you would be putting sveral pence on the basic rate of income tax.:rolleyes: 😉
Not exactly true mate, Land 17 here in Australia is looking at the new version of the G-8 with their longer ranged artillery rounds. This is the Armys favourite for the competition but the government hasn’t made up it’s mind yet. Back in March when I was down in Avalon, they had a PzH-2000 of the Dutch army over, this is one of the contenders (Dutch are offering us 18 of their new Pinzgauer’s which are surplus to their needs in a trade deal for more Dingo Armoured Combat Vehicules).
There is a market out there for SPG’s and Mobile Artillery Systems, it’s just not as big or relevant (on this forum) as Fighters.
I was under the impression that the Aussies were looking for something lighter than the Pzh-2000 and that the Bofors Archer armoured truck based system was the favourite?
I know that at one point Denel was working with a US company to create a self propelled 105mm howitzer turret for the Stryker, IIRC a prototype was produced and tested but I have never seen a photo?
Edit: found a photo, http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/001262.html
Apparently it weighs 17.5 tonnes and is fully C-130 transportable. The turret is unmanned and the US company is General Dynamics land systems (GDLS) and the Denel 105mm howitzer is called the G-7.
Hey swerve…this states that for 500E
TWS>10 targets
Track formation range >25 nm
Look up detection range >35 nm.http://www.selexinfrared.com/datasheets/Vixen500E.pdf
Doesnt the detection and tracking ranges seem too small for an AESA :confused:
Do remember that for s start this radar is tiny, it is intended to fit in the nose of a lead in fighter trainer.;)
More importantly, it can reach a greater cruise altitude than any AEW helo, thus giving its radar a longer effective range (the current AEW radar in the RN’s Sea Kings can see out to the horizon… which is closer if you are at a lower altitude).
But lets be honest, just becouse its better it does not mean that the MoD will buy it.
I figure the service life of these things are probably not that long and the procurement cost for the upgraded versions is probably still pretty low and so they may just be doing this to wait until a replacement for Q-5 is available. It seems at this point from the talk of Chinese BBS that this is the most likely role of JF-17 in PLAAF.
I disagree, the Q-5s roles have been all but completely absorbed either by types now enetering service or likely to do so in the near future.
CAS- nicely covered by the WZ-10 and the J-10s light attack capability.
Long range strike- JH-7A was built for the role and is/will remain far more capable than the JF-17.
As far as the PLAAF is concerned the JF-17 should be considered a complete waste of time, effort and resources, there is no operational need for it whatsoever.
Vixen 500E is said to be “not so capable” AESA, so is it really worth upgrading with Vixen 500E?
Better will be something 640 TR modules AESA but using GaN chips.
Do you have a source for that Joey? I was using it as an example.
The Pakfa has yet to even fly yet alone go into production and service, when it eventually does it will likely not be procured in large numbers initially, therefore we can expect to see RuAF flankers in service for a very long time.
I realy dont think that it makes much difference, look at the Vixen-500E for instance. It is also a fairly sensible upgrade for the LCA to improve capability.
From xinhui @ CDF:
This is what the folks over there are saying:
With the JH-7A coming on stream in increasing numbers with the PLAAF, the light attack capabilities of the J-10 already demonstrated and the WZ-10 surely about to enter service the question has to be asked- why bother?
Even on the export front the JF-17 will soon bury the Q-5 once and for all.
I think that…
Tender sounds old, ‘mother ship’ though sounds cool and star wars like.
I would have to agree………….with many of the current Aegis Destroyers being large and powerful enough to be called “Cruisers”.:D
And the DD-21/1000 or whatever it is being called now could easily be called a heavy cruiser!:eek:
Follow the link to Beedall’s Navy Matters and you find this:
I also came across this artist rendering of an AEW version of S-3 Viking: it seems to have a similar dorsal radar facility.
That has virtually no chance whatsoever of being built. The UK will probably end up getting an AEW version of the Merlin if they do not come to their senses and put catapults on the CVF’s.
I think LCa’s Radome is too small to fit good AESA?
now ofcourse if they are GaN TR modules , a different ball game. :diablo:
Shouldnt be a problem, Rafale has a small nose and its getting an AESA, the F-16 has a small nose and the block 60 got an AESA. Selex systems are marketing the Vixen-500E for small nosed aircraft as well.
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Except that its not really a similar no.IAF is procuring 230 nos of Su30MKI as opposed to 150 or so PAF JF-17s.
And thats the point, the PAF is effectively procuring itself into indefinate inferiority.
No sunshine. you have neither read nor comprehended!
If pakistans efforts, and hundreds of men lost are pathetic, then all other countries efforts, SUNSHINE, are nothing but horse manure.
You do not count effort or commitment in terms of casualties, that is how you count faliure and the scale of the problem that in this case pakistan has created for itself.