http://www.rusnavy.com/news/newsofday/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=13293
Soobrazitelny will be handed over to the Navy in a few days!
Would be even sweeter if they changed that piece of trash Uran battery for something more formidable.
As said this is not about the MiG-29 being bad as a combat aircraft as such, but it’s probably one of the most overrated fighters I’m aware of!
Overrated for what chief?
The MiG-29A/S were Soviet AF aircraft. With Soviet air defense in mind. They were, as you might know, point-defense fighters. Short legs. Insane WVR capability. The Hornet would be dead meat close in. But then again, the Hornet wasn’t really designed for WVR and point-defense, was it?
Aim 9-x is > R 73
The R-73 series will always have a very useful range advantage.
if you guys have not noticed, the F-35 radome is also small.
And hence no one has said that the F-35 radar will have stellar raw performance with regards to range.
I am not so sure about that Jo.
1.) Su-34 numbers are intended to be at least around 100-120 by 2020. That is rather significant for post Cold War RuAF. And no one said production will end there 😉 .
2.) PAK-FA is already being produced will full intent to package A2G munitions, so I think it will be ready for striker job out of the box. Perhaps not as dedicated as it could be, I will give you that.
3.) PAK-DA. A man can dream after all.All in all the news fit into my hypothesis that FGFA will be a lot closer to PAk-FA than people think. And that is good news. They should streamline the two projects as much as possible.
The Su-27 / Su-30MKI comparison is inaccurate in this case.
The Su-27 / Su-30MKI comparison is pretty good, IMO.
Different avionics are to be expected, plus the 1 vs 2 seats.
The radar might be the same in this case, however.
Will the Russian government impose restrictions on the range like it does with missile systems compared to its own system?
I’d take any news regarding the Kirov vessels with a grain of salt. No matter the source – unless it’s fresh (read: recent) out of the mouth of a Russian Navy official, and right to the point (we are are scrapping that, keeping that, etc.)
Is the Kh-58 available for export or Russia specific?
It’s certainly available for export. It has been advertised as such.
well I guess the MiG-29 (like most other Soviet/Russian hardware) tended to be supplied to countries that didn’t have “continually evolving economies”. It’s hardly a glowing recommendation though, is it?:confused:
It’s not about recommendations.
It’s about history. What happened, happened. What was Russia going to do, upgrade old Soviet bloc equipment in other countries on their own money?
The MiG-29 would have been far more thoroughly operated in upgraded form if it were operated by countries with continually evolving economies. That’s not the case.
The F-16, on the other hand, was peddled en-masse to various Western European countries that did well in the 1990s. Hence why it is operated more, and in upgraded form.
The Mig-29S,SMT,K and MiG-35 can hold their own against comparable generation F-16s, especially in A2A. Most readily available avionics numbers are directly comparable. Any attempt to prove otherwise successfully had better include manufacturer sources and number for on-board equipment.
King Tiger – 21st century style baby! 😀
LT-2 is more rip-off from Paveway than whateve russia have
C802/803 is rip off from which russian weapon again?but anyways. go on.
Notice I said nothing about C802/803 as rip off 🙂
And the LT-2 has a surprisingly similar seeker as the KAB-L series 😉
LT-2, C-802K, C-803, YJ-93
Rip-off bomb from Russia? Check. Ok. China got parity there (maybe?).
Two huge missiles that aren’t relevant to stealthy J-20. Check.
Huge Kh-31, rip-off, not relevant to J-20 or possessing the range of Kh-58USh models. Check.
Back to square one brosevich!
The PAK-FA has been confirmed to have solid A2G capability (for bombs), bar the KAB-1500.
KAB-250/500 is no issue.
Other long range missiles for A2G are too – and quality counts.
What does China offer even remotely comparable to the very useful Kh-58UShKE?
SU-34 has full helmet “shlem” targeting mode for short-range AAMs eh?
I understand it has certain advantages wrt a ground attack role. But I I’m not sure they’re so great so as to justify all the funding that went into the Su-34’s development.
Clearly the people dealing with billions of $$ of orders disagree.
-Cockpit armor is not so important to modern fighters that prefer to drop PGMs from high altitude
Sure, if you are fighting a bunch of ill-prepared jihadis. Once the quality SAMs come into play, a pilot’s life is important. (For high-altitude missions).
The whole point of the Su-34 is also low-altitude capability (sort of Su-25-like) . . . and here, again, the armor is important. CAS type missions at low level vs. someone without SAMs can be very helpful to a friendly ground force.
-Side-by-side seating is may provide crew comfort for long missions but comes with limitations in pilot visibility for dogfights
Dogfight and Su-34 should not be used in the same sentence.
The only thing it is going to “dogfight” is enemy ‘kukuruzniks’ (light attack jets) should those be available for an OpFor.
-Not sure about the payload(any sources I see online only show 8000kg) but I should think 8 tonnes of PGMs and cruise missiles would be good enough for most applications
Latest Russian sources = 12T.
-Some of the other advantages of the Su-34 could have been applied more cheaply for the Su-27/30, like better ground attack radar capability and increased internal fuel capacity(via a longer tail spine). Besides the Flanker can have upto 14 pylons(with multiple ejectors), why not spare one or two for a drop tank?
The Su-34 radar was specifically optimized for ground, and its shape is what makes it good at A2G. Try flattening the nose of an Su-27SM/30/35.