What anti-ship battery are they putting on the 20835?
Something tells me the weight/size won’t be that different. But I suppose all we can do is find out, eh?
Barely better than the F-22 engine at dry thrust yet 30 years later? Not impressive at all.
The afterburner thrust is nice though.
I think onboard equipment remains sufficient for basic guided bomb attacks.
They should just buy TomTom and Garmin GLONASS-configured car navigation systems.. 😀
Thats where I disagree. If I’m a warfare officer in the Japanese, Korean, Indian, Australian or even Singaporean navies I know, roughly, what Vulkan offers as a threat and I know that my defensive systems envelope is capable of covering that threat. I know that my systems have capability to deal with streaming missile attacks and that if the Slava fires its full Vulkan load at one of my AAW ships, even if it does overwhelm and destroy that vessel, its taken itself off the field as an offensive unit until it can get back to port, rearm and get back into the fight.
I’m going to be much happier facing 16 Vulkans than two or three times that number of Yakhonts. Especially as I’m no more able to counterstrike a surface target 300km away than I am one 700km away…thats obviously on the somewhat unrealistic premise that ISTAR is in place to allow for such shots in the first place.
I suppose they retain the Slava’s Vulkans to counteract the potential threat from aircraft carriers. Being able to stay another 400KM away from the enemy’s aviation can be a life-death difference. Not to mention Vulkan is much more effective at 1-shotting a CVN out of action.
Agree on the Slava’s inherently offering value as a more readily upgradeable platform than the 1144’s. What value does Vulkan offer that replacing each launch tube with a, for example, triple Yakhont group wouldn’t do better?.
Every developed navy on the planet is now outfitting with inner-layer missiles like ESSM, Aster/SAAM, with high-capacity direction elements. How does a legacy missile like Vulkan penetrate those types of defences…and if it cant what value is there embarking it?.
Jonesy.. I think the real value is for large asset survival.
Yakhont in the current state puts the ship much closer to the target (1/2 the range really). This naturally means you’re far more likely to get shot back at. Vulkan types give you the better opportunity to shoot and run if necessary.
As far as the layered SAMs go, that’s all a possibility with upgrading of the old SAM systems on the ship. New S-300FM/400, TOR and Kashtan, along with all the other toys I can hardly keep up with.
And for the record, how are the Kirovs any worse? $3-4 billion more for Russia isn’t exactly wild dreams, and for those Kirovs, I would actually agree that a very large mix of missiles would work (including very long range land attack ones).
Slava is hardly obsolete is you fit it out with modern electronic kit.
Vulkan and S-300/400 is serious business.
I report I saw mentioned VVS, and helicopters are all part of the army now.. no?
The VVS mention could be bad journalism, though.
Still using stone-age radars? The twin cassegrain antenna is clearly the bottleneck of the system. Increasing processing power cannot do much more to improve the radar performance. 🙁
So the AWG-9 and further derivatives are poor radars?
10 :eek::rolleyes:
Is this number realistic?
Of course not! How could you fit $2 billion / sub * 8 = $16 billion (high estimate, unpaid for) into a $650 rearmament program! :rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUZwLLA2cbM&fmt=18
YouTube copy of 2nd flight.
That’s good news!
Now the entire aviation wing of Tu-22M3s, Su-24Ms, etc. can practice the full spectrum of anti-ground and anti-ship operations, unless the command are a bunch of complete idiots and think that anti-ship ops are no longer needed.
The air force in the past did limited anti-ship practice AFAIK.
The chopper got shot with a SAM, what more explanation need there be? :rolleyes:
Kh-25MT or ML, not Kh-29.
I think the Su-24 can’t carry the Kh-29 on the outer pylons.
Perhaps it can carry up to three Kh-29 on 2 inner pylons + centerline.