From what I understand, the Su-27SM radar should be primarily optimized for long-range A2A engagement. It really had no use for precise, SAR type applications. Either way, both TV/IR and laser weapons can be carried by the Su-27SM, along with basic anti-radiation weapons like the Kh-31PD.

I personally don’t see any date before 2020 as very realistic..

That’s retardation… (pun intended) 😉

That’s way too unrealistic for the RuAF. India, maybe.

The Su-35 is going to be flying in 2012. 2015 – 2016 is fair for the PAK-FA.

See 1980s programs in the USSR as a reference.

Did you read that on Wikipedia?

Anything wikipedia has would be better than what you have to offer.:rolleyes:

Basic physics has about as much to do with stealth engineering as ballet does with kick-boxing. :rolleyes:

Overall, since you do NOT know anything relating to news on the PAK-FA, unless you stalk the sukhoi.ru forum as a hobby and understand Russian, I would urge you to listen to others. This is blatantly obvious when you try to convince people (essentially) that the current T-50 will be what the final product looks like. Most here do listen to the Russian savvy posters, and understand that changes will occur to the platform before it is operational (2.5D TVC nozzles, RAM, new fancy blocker, etc).

I would agree with him that the PAK-FA will be superior in most electronics to the F-35, barring the DAS and perhaps close-range electro-optical targeting system.

….When is T-50 expected to enter service ?

2015 should be full RuAF service. With most bells and whistles, minus the full on monster 5G engine. I would assume by this point they would have full stealth configuration too: (2.5D thrust vectoring, blocker, RAM, etc).

I think it’s the S-300PS. A little dated, with only 90KM range. Maybe 1/2 of Georgia, at best.

Vanir, what information do you have straight off from Janes?

For all R-33 models?

R-33E – I thought this was some export version? It’s listed as 120KM on the Tactical Missile Corp website.

http://eng.ktrv.ru/production_eng/323/503/510/

If anyone has access to Jane’s, that would probably be the place to find info on the R-33 missile. Everything on the internet is ass-backwards and contradictory.

Naah. If you aren’t into Western aircraft, & want big bang at a relatively modest up-front price, you buy Sukhoi. MiG-35 falls uneasily in the middle.

Not if you can’t afford more than a dozen of them.