Sorry my friend – 16 x Blackjacks, armed with 200 x ALCM`s is nothing to scoff at, you are most right! One nuclear weapon delivered is too many!!
But once again how many of these sixteen impressive bombers are able to sortie at once, when the launch is really needed?
How well are their crews trained or proficient to perform the role of nuclear warfighting?
I am talking about them delivering conventional cruise missiles like the Kh-555 and Kh-101.
2.5D 🙂
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Quadro, I had read somewhere that the final NIIP AESA array would contain 2000TR modules. So that’s not the case?
Heard that an Su-24M and Su-34 completed a non-stop flight across all of Russia.
They were of course refueled by Il-78s.
Sounds like a good way to practice “coast hopping” in the event that something goes down with someone serious and additional units are needed elsewhere.
You need to start watching/looking about 5 sec earlier…
I’m torn between both. It does look like it twists from a horizontal position. Maybe that’s just an illusion of sorts. 😮
Except for broadband low observables, operational sensors/weapons systems and a cadre of trained pilots with several deployments under their belts :p
PAK-FA checklist:
Broadband LO @ Production (inc. 2D nozzles, new radar blocker, etc): CHECK
5 freakin’ radar arrays: (including one w/ 2000TR modules): CHECK
Badass looks: DOUBLE CHECK
There are all sorts of reflective surfaces on the frontal aspect of the Flanker.
By the way, the 20m^2 figure comes from Mikhail Simonov.:eek:
20m2 of it huh? Do you know how large that is?
Apparently not. I’d say each engine was 1 – 2m2 by itself.
Then what? :rolleyes:
Unfortunately that 20m2 is a number that we know nothing about.
Worse case is likely, as there’s nothing that’s 20 meters flat to reflect off of the front angles in a Flanker.
So refrain from using it.




Raptor got nothing on this thing! :diablo:
Except that a dozen or two F 15C had APG 63(V)2, the F 15 C of the Air Nationa Guard just started to receive APG 63(V)3. Not to mention the ~ 150 F 18E/F that already got their APG 79…
Right, that bunch. Which again, would likely be shooting at AWACS or something that doesn’t carry any serious jamming or decoys.
The F-15, F-16, F-18, Gripen, Typhoon(and any other plane that can use AMRAAMs) could meaningfully use it.
Or not. None of their radars can reliably track anything short of a tanker or AWACs at the max range of the “D”.
Just my 20-cents worth if I may……..
– I often look at the Russian`s sabre rattling with its handful of Tu-160 ‘Blackjacks’ – a capable bombers? yes!, deserve respect? yes! But when was the last time the Russian`s sortied them in one pack?
This is the way I see the Su-34 becoming for the Russian Air Force, for the near future maybe a squadron at most!
So even if the Russian`s get their Su-34`s, will they have the money to train its flight crews to the designs max potential? Will they be able to afford to fly them at all? that is the difference in my eyes, between that of the F-15E and the Su-34.
What in the hell would you attack with 16 Blackjacks? That’s almost 200 cruise missiles – you could comfortably obliterate the fighting force of most nations right in their home base with that kind of firepower.
And as far as the Su-34 is concerned – you can bet it won’t be flying in hordes against anything either. Not that the Russians won’t have enough of them by around 2014 – 2015; just that Chechen rebels and Georgian sh1thead presidents and their second rate armies don’t require the use of such firepower.
To my knowledge, the R-37 was chosen over the KS-172, and it’s not currently in service.
Yes, it’s not in service, yet, because the only platforms that can meaningfully use it are the MiG-31BM, Su-35 and PAK-FA. The two former are in various stages of procurement, so you will see this missiles in a few years.
AIM-120Ds are being bought right now, and will be in the inventory this year.:cool:
And no platform can even meaningfully use the weapon. The F-22 might, but that integration isn’t happening for a while now is it?
I think Su-34 + KS-172 could be a splendid AWAC killer.
The Su-34 radar is optimized heavily for ground operations. I don’t believe its A2A range capabilities would permit best use of very long range A2A missiles.
Using the Su-34 for that role would be a waste of a resource, and the Su-30 would be a much better choice. Of course the KS-172 isn’t in service, nor has it been ordered so it’s a moot point.
The AIM-120D isn’t in service either. And we don’t know if the KS-172 or R-37M which is similar have been ordered – or not. Details of the last weapons orders from the RuAF were light on details.
Netcentric is not a trival issue it lies at the heart of USN system and specially the new Virginia class subs.
Russia has taken a late jump into this domain and its gradually building this capability, hopefully they just build on the soft side of the submarine and leaps into Informational Age.
http://www.jamestown.org/programs/edm/single/?tx_ttnews[tt_news]=36102&tx_ttnews[backPid]=484&no_cache=1
I mean it is a trivial matter in terms of integration (regarding hardware modification) onto newer military pieces.
Ex: Su-34/35, PAK-FA, Yasen and Borei, the later Akulas, Pr. 22350 frigates, etc.
It seems that Yasen may equal the Virginia in noise level and exceed it in sheer fire power , but in Sensors/Sonar suite , Netcentric Capability and Versatilty of employment the Virginia exceeds Yasen.
Well the Russian would still be happy if they caught up with US 4th Gen sub in noise level it been nearly 5 decade struggle to reach where they are in noise level.
Where is RSM55 need his opinion on Yasen launch.
Netcentric capability is a trivial matter. I’m fairly certain the electronics aboard the Severodvinsk are open architecture enough so that they can be reprogrammed to function with new communication tools once they become available and online.