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June 5, 2010 at 7:14 am in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 13 #2380950

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Yip, she flew again yesterday…

Damn! I think Paralay’s engine duct modeling is very very good! This pic helped me see it, along with pfcem’s useless post below!

Will draw it out once I wake up and sober up + get time to do it.

June 3, 2010 at 7:36 am in reply to: Russian Navy News & Discussion, Part III #2037073

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Well atleast the leap from Delta 4 design to Borei looks revolutionary to me.

Getting rid of a hump is not revolutionary in my eyes.

If any revolution took place, it’s 95% likely inside the Yasen or Yasen-M that’s incoming.

June 3, 2010 at 7:33 am in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 13 #2382200

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There is nothing in this thread that proves anything you said. :rolleyes:

If you are blind enough not to see significant horizontal and vertical difference between the intake and engine face, you are beyond help. 😮

June 3, 2010 at 4:46 am in reply to: Russian Navy News & Discussion, Part III #2037087

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Yasen just looks like a upgraded Akula-3 to me with VLS tube call it glorified Akula.

There is nothing revolutionary about the sub as we saw in the last leap from Victor 3 to Akula

There has been nothing revolutionary in submarines in the last 30 years overall anyway – so who cares?

It’s definitely going to be quieter than the already formidable Oscar II, packing a 24 cruise missile punch from the VLS system and I’m guessing it can also fire Kh-101s from the 650mm tubes.

Seems like a hell of a sub.

June 2, 2010 at 5:53 pm in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 13 #2382567

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Check those badly cut nd paste work of the comp fan here where i outlined it.

And yes quite clearly in this night pick the blitz should have iluminated the inlets different(casting shaddow).

The way the cut and paste made the engine “fit” into the intake is obviously fake as well. It just looks – like it’s magically part of the intake hehe… 😀

Could it be possible the entire thing is a mish-mash photoshop using a frontal pic? Glued on the ladder with the guy, etc.

June 1, 2010 at 7:08 pm in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 13 #2383186

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The difference is that the YF-23 has much more curved intke while on the T-50 it’s almost straight.

The outside exhibits some vertical and horizontal movement. What’s even more important, is what’s inside. That, however, you cannot see.

June 1, 2010 at 6:47 am in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 13 #2383583

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Quite the opposite. The entire line of the thread over the past week has been all about the same fools who STILL insist that the engines & inlets are out of alignment & that there ARE s-ducts (like that of the YF-23).

The YF-23 does not have any “S” duct BS – it has a curved intake.

Just like the T-50 does.

I came to realize people are simply calling “intake curvature” –> “s ducts”

Also, waiting on your “original” image patiently. Guess it just doesn’t exist.

June 1, 2010 at 6:21 am in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 13 #2383602

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I love this guy 😀

No one here is suggesting there is an “S-duct” (that’s not a duck, btw – and it’s not shaped like a full “S”) on the T-50, yet he tries to prove there is none.

I guess he hasn’t figured out that the normal people here are assuming there’s some twisting / angling in the intake to reduce radar signature, likely coupled with a blocker unless the tunnel shaping is extreme.

May 31, 2010 at 5:05 pm in reply to: Crusty Russian Subs #2037290

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Those are the older Victor IIIs that are getting decommissioned and scrapped.

May 30, 2010 at 11:33 pm in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 13 #2384283

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I don’t know. Who came up with the claim that the pic was PSed in the first place? I think it could be genuine… :confused:

So what would it be showing? A front blocker?

May 30, 2010 at 10:02 pm in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 13 #2384318

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The question is , how did that picture got in the hands of someone who for some dubious reasons photoshopped it and then posted it on the net …why did they ‘shopped it ? 😡

Its relatevly clear which series that pic is coming from, and i think it would be terribly interesting to actually see the original pic…

( i still think the folks who invented photoshop should be send in a bloody gulag! :diablo: )

I actually want to hear from the people on Sukhoi.ru forums what exactly is the real story of that image…

May 30, 2010 at 3:19 am in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 13 #2384946

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Pfff. Not that I have expected any better from you than the obvious “do an internet image search”. :rolleyes:

Except the one nighttime shot there is no single pic in this or any other threads that shows an engine face !!! You have nothing, just like I’ve anticipated.

The kid is confused.

There were two “engine” images.

The first was a Photoshop.

Then there was a Kapedani-style re-Photoshop of a Photoshop!

The confused little lamb thinks that the first Photoshop was the “original” and “real” image. . . 😀

May 30, 2010 at 3:18 am in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 13 #2384950

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Even considering the plane inclination angle is soooooo clear that the engine axis is different from the intake axis.
It is higher and inner than the intake axis.
Enough to hide the fan? Off-course not. But more than half a fan (around 2/3) is hidden.
Compare with the Flanker one.

Just by using the angles / positioning of the engines.

Throw in a curved duct that’s thinner than the intake, as well as a blocker, and you’ve got it all set.

May 28, 2010 at 7:51 am in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 13 #2385893

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Hahahaha… this kid is better than a stand up comedian.

Where’s that original pic you speak of? Non-existent I suppose…

No vertical movement in the intake at all!

It’s just by magic that you can see the T-50 engines from BELOW the nose level, and can NOT see them on the Flanker from a similar level!

Hell, here’s a kicker:

Standing above the nose of the Flanker, you still can’t see the engines because they are level with the intakes. . .

The T-50.. on the other hand… (fill in the blank)

Worst case scenario is that 1/4 of the engine of somehow visible, and 99.9% of that is blocked by a radar blocker.

We have no idea what happens in between the green lines, but most sane people here agree there is definitely vertical and horizontal movement there.

Just by looking at this, assuming it’s an empty, straight tunnel, the engine is 50% blocked.

Your nose-pointing comment is moot and irrelevant.

May 27, 2010 at 7:53 am in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 13 #2386732

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Look at how high those T-50 engines rise!
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