The planned reorganisation of Russian aviation with see the TU-22M3 fleet consolidated at the 6951st Air Base at Shaikovka (2 Regiments) and at 6953rd Air Base at Belaya (2 Regiments). Both these bases will be under the command of the Russian Air Force’s new Long Range Aviation Command. There primary role, together with the TU-95MS and TU-160, will be as part of Russia’s Nuclear forces, primarily equipped with Kh-15, Kh-22 and Kh-55 cruise missiles. 40 TU-22M3s are to be disposed of and a sililar munber mothballed. A sad and quiet demise for the once mighty Naval Aviation whose capabilities were onceof such concern to NATO
Something tells me that even if they are consolidated to ~approx 96 jets – they won’t be forgetting their anti-shipping duties anytime soon.
Yeah, as someone said, no Su-30 has been “RCS-reduced” yet AFAIK.
That would be the Su-35 destined for the RuAF.
In which case, I believe that the use of RAM in the engine / duct and SLIGHT re-shaping of the tails have led to a manifold reduction in RCS.
When is my beloved Tu-22M going to be phased out ?
I really hate the thought of it !
Me too, but around 2030 I would imagine many would be gone.
A relatively large supersonic missile needs to be created for the PAK-FA for anti-ship purposes.
Supersonic Klub 3M-54E would never fit inside – perhaps 2 on the outside would allow for good enough survivability.
I guess alternatively, the PAK-FA could use Kh-58USHKe for anti-ship purposes internally, assuming the ship is emitting OR the Su-34 could be escorted by the PAK-FA while the Su-34 is equipped with 2 – 3 heavy anti-ship missiles (it’ll be necessary when Tu-22M3 starts getting phased out).
Point 5
The constant abysmal handling and management of the US Navy is very hard for me to comprehend or handle, and is costing the USN as a whole in my opinion. Its constant and seemingly never ending chopping and changing of what it wants and what it envisions as a threat, to which it expends vast amounts of money and resources, only to cancel or change its mind is both ridicules. Again many would say that the Russian Navy is no threat or challenge to the US Navy (although Putin and his puppet like to promote otherwise!), and of course there is the ever growing and real threat of the open ambitions of the PRC (and its PLAN and PLAAF). The PLA clearly has its own agenda, it is not willing to divulge, but the fact is it is growing and learning in its ability, ambition and capability to design, build and deploy ever growing capable combat ships and submarines, which has been underpinned by the worlds wiliness and want to feed this growing ambition for cash and trading preference. The PRC’s indigenise capability is also growing at an alarming rate. Add to this what the PRC can neither buy or design itself, it has proven very effective in acquiring via very clever and effective espionage.Regards
Pioneer
A few initial thoughts….
Response 5. The Russian Navy needs, probably, a generation to recapitalise its fleet. It has a handful of competetive submarines at deployment readiness and perhaps 20 surface escorts worthy of the name in a very unbalanced force mix. As an opponent to the USN it is not in the same league. Similarly the PLAN at its current state. They can build a ship in a year and a bit – but you dont build the ‘tradition’ by throwing money at it. They need the experienced operators to work up their ships as proper fighting units. That will come in time, of course, and the Chinese are nothing if not patient but, again, as opponents they do not score highly. The need to run about flapping about some latter day ‘bomber gap’ is decidely not here yet and not really all that close.
The Russian Navy might not have the resources to face the USN away from home ground, but at home, I wish the USN every bit of luck to operate successfully, especially with the Russian Air Force thrown into the mix.
Muthaland!! 😎
All garbage.
10 billion of R&D for any new jet would be better off buying 100 more PAK-FA @ $100 million a piece, if that were their price.
And one-engine not the Russian way of doing things.
MY GOD man, what on earth are you TALKING about!? The T-50 has huge rivets Jutting from its skin! The T-50s underside looks like that space station from star wars! The T-50 Has a Bigger butt than a Sir mixalot video!
Those are the things that make the T-50 Less stealthy.
Your delusions are disturbing.
If that’s what you want to believe in order to feel better at night when you go to sleep, then so be it. lol! That means Zimbabwe, Egypt, Croatia, North Korea, etc. etc. all have cmparable radar systems and avionics compared to the U.S., Russia, European companies, etc. therefore? Hehe! I don’t think so.
Stop kidding yourself, bud. It’s not that easy to make world class avionics.
Your comparisons are idiotic at best.
Russians are not retarded, but it’s historically known that Russia always lacked in the avionics area compared to the West, especially compared to the U.S.
The USSR spent way more money on avionics advancement during the Cold War than they do today, yet back then they still could not match the U.S. technological advancement. Stop kidding yourself.
If you say Russia can somehow magically jump that far ahead without any reasonable explanation, then so did China? North Korea? Brazil? India? Zimbabwe?
You have to show us very good evidence before we even start believing your statement that Russia miraculously jumped a decade or two ahead in avionics development to match the U.S. lol! So Russia advanced in avionics, but the U.S., the historical leader in this area, sat on their butts and stayed at the same level without going forward? Why? To let Russia catch up?
Again, stop kidding yourself. 😉
Might want to take your own advice. All the crap that goes into aircraft isn’t even cutting edge electronics performance wise. Everything else is widely available.
I would never accuse the Russians of boasting.:cool:
In which case, it’s fair to assume, they are probably right – the new Russian RAM is at least as good as what the US has on its aircraft.
I don’t assume Russian scientists are idiots, but that doesn’t mean that they necessarily have the same technical know how in every field. You’re also assuming that the US tech is frozen, and hasn’t improved over time either.
Neither of us know how good either RAM variant is, but you’re the one that stated superiority, when you can’t even provide the comparisons that I asked for, and then use “I assume Russian scientists aren’t idiots” as proof.
However, the know-how rich Russian scientists do believe their RAM is superior to that of the current US one.
Most of the time, Russians don’t boast about such things without reason or fact. Or at least some level of truth.
Ah that explains it. Now how much does US RAM cost per cubic meter vs. Russian RAM, and how much does an equal amount of each weigh? Now the real tough question, in terms of superiority- how well does each variant work at attenuating radar signals?
Less weight + cost = more = better.
At least in 1 way. You’ll never know just how good any of the RAM is, so leave it alone. I just assume that both a US and Russian scientist aren’t idiots. Hard for you, I know.
The YF-22’s development started well before its first flight I would imagine.:cool:
Uhh yeah, 1986. –> 2001/2002 for PAK-FA.
Development and tech for the PAK-FA was being conceived in 2002. Other 5th gen conceptualization even earlier.
I’d say the most accurate assessment would be ~14 – 15 years (1986 – 2001).
Probably irrelevant to RAM though, as those were created separately. (2006 approx for T-50 AFAIK, and mid 1990s for the F-22?)