I disagree. They are much better than that. I think they have shown enough in recent years. They just can’t do everything at one stroke. Don’t be surprised if they come out with a new stealthy bomber in few years – developed in complete silence.

Disagree eh? Other than producing a supposedly 5th generation worthy airframe, what have they done to even remotely compete with the US or Russia in other areas?! :rolleyes:

Quick question on MiG’s 1.44 – how many flights did the thing complete?

Also, what is the story behind its engines? (AL-41F I presume?) How do these compare in size to the MiG-31’s D-30F6?

I think I’ve been out of touch with the Fulcrum family..

Why the heck is the MiG-29M/M2 still being offered if the MiG-35 is basically an extension of those?

Lower cost version for clients with less $$$ to spend?

Hmmm.. and what exactly were his ambitions? To design a totally useless demonstrator serving doubtful purpose just because he could? :confused:

Totally useless eh?

Is Pogosyan your drinking buddy? He must have told you that, right? 😀

Kapedani is a typically full of Russophobic dribble.

Mostly good for a laugh. He’ll disappear eventually like the rest of them.

Well the way I see it, the new “destroyer” can go one of two general ways:
1.) Stretched 22350- basically similar general weaponry but stretched, more cells etc. Around ~6000 or more tons, would be a nice ship, but what would it really offer over 22350, which already does everything and more than the old destroyers did.
2.) Larger ~9000-11000 ton ship, with nuclear propulsion, and a very different sensor and weapons package from 22350. If they want a ship for BMD, and true long distance deployment capability, this would fit the ticket.

If the planned number is what they stated, 6 ships (unless that is only the first batch), and the construction time is as far back as 2016, then I think there is real possibility this will be a bigger ship. Which is fine as long as 22350 program speeds up.

This nuclear idea is complete nonsense. If they want to mass produce this thing like the Arleigh Burke, they need to avoid making it too complicated. 6 planned of the class? Come on, that’s just a joke!

They can always design a new nuclear cruiser later (not Kirov size, obviously, unless they feel really ambitious).

looks like a brutal touch down….:D nice, thanks

That’s OK – it doesn’t have matchstick landing gear like the F-35. 😮

Using old stock is good. Why let it go to waste?

And if you can make your pilots use dumb bombs well, the guided munitions become a breeze 😉