855 class has just 533 mm TT

U could also be “Udlenyonniy” = Elongated

Makes sense, too.

Don’t mention it! It just saddens me to sometimes see a lack of perspective on Key Publishing Forums, Dionysus.

There was no need for any perspective from me – you clearly got butthurt (why?) to a specific response to a comment I made to another member.

Oh – I got it. An F-35 softy eh? Don’t worry, there will be thousands of F-35s produced. Hopefully you’ll live long enough to actually see it 😉

We were talking about numbers in the inventory, so I think yeah 1000s, even USN has 1000+ 😮

I only know of F-16s in that number range (from combat aircraft).

~1200 F-16s
~400 F-18s
~450 F-18E/Fs
~250 F-15s
~250 F-15Es
~300 A-10s?

Hence, there is no longer any need for such a large number of Russian SSNs (as compared to Soviet Navy numbers) they are freed from SSBN ‘bodyguard’ duties. The 885M in particular, is a formidable blue water, area denial tool in itself (but I agree 5/6 is not enough, maybe a new SSK design will act as complement, especially as 885M weighs in @ nearly $3bn a pop!).

What the hell are you talking about?

The Yasen, in today’s dollars, is ~$1 billion / boat.

See the Lenta.ru article for 2 quotes putting them at about that much a piece. It’s not a damn Zumlolwalt.. 😀

Thank you, this issue will probably kill any hope for a naval-carrier born version, I’d always thought that part of the T-50’s airframe was going to show some structural issues, it looks like I was not wrong.

100/100 for most asinine comment disguised as a legit comment. Ever. :rolleyes:

0/100, pretty low score considering I proved the level of drunken BS coming out of Russia by the vary fact the Russian navy commander claimed they be floating 6 carrier battle groups soon, with work starting on them starting in 2012. I wonder how much work is actually going on builinding these 6 carriers…. (here’s a hint, non whatsoever, it was drunken nonsense)

I’d say I get at least 75/100 considering the bulk of the claim was 100% correct, minus the 2020 bit but google may be able to throw more light on that..

At this point you are going in to the negatives. -50/100.

Every link was exactly the same piece of news.

FURTHERMORE, in every piece it said “AFTER 2012″

Theoretically, that could be any time. It’s basically a non-actionable piece of news. So again, you fail, but don’t worry too much about it. 😉

Nothing vague about it, the Hybrid PESA of Bars is a huge leap over old N001 in just about every parameter. Come on man, this isn’t news.

The OLD N001.

We are talking about the 20 years later overhauled version.

PESA is all great – but remember the AWG-9 from the Tomcat.. from the 1970s?