So now that they have the money why didn’t they just start the Mig 1.42 program back up if they thought it was competitive? As I recall they did claim it was suppose to be faster and stealthier than the F-22 after all. And if it were truely testbed status they’d have flown it more than twice (they only even raised the gear once). Sukhoi managed more with their company funded S-37. That at least I think could be convincingly considered a testbed. If the Mig was a testbed what did it test?

Now after Sukhoi bureau was claimed responsible for the project, would you seriously expect them to simply take the MIG design? 😎

AFAIK, the 1.44 tested Al-41 engines although that sounds rather odd to me. Unproven engines tested on unproven aircraft? Something stinks on that claim…

They probably realized the project didn’t fit the government’s required capabilities of the jet.

Looks like Rosatom is making sure the reactor placement goes smoothly to avoid any kind of stupid mistakes.

Nice trolling. Bravoooooooooooooooo

Funny how the people here who give the Russians the benefit of the doubt don’t go in with statements like “The F-35B or F-35C?” – oops, they don’t fly. Yet. Ever?

😉

Facts these are not. They are opinion posing as fact.

Wait until they have a flying aircraft before making such pronouncements.

What you think Sukhoi are idiots? They have a mandate. You think you forum geniuses know better? Seriously? They have specific goals in mind, they KNOW the F-22 and F-35 exists, they probably know more about it than you can imagine as they are paid SCIENTISTS and ENGINEERS who study this day in and day out. it WILL incorporate the latest fusion of Russian avionics, which means new ECM systems, an Irbis-type AESA radar, next-gen weapon systems which will be on par or better with Western ones. These new weapons will be of a completely new level in their relative class.

They know there are other 5th gen fighters out there – they know they have to create something that will somehow ensure superiority in the air. They have the advantage of being the newcomer, as always. Hello the old F-16 –> MiG-29 // F-15 –> Su-27 story.

If the T-50 is 15% less capable than the F-22, but 35% cheaper, who wins? 🙂 Just an example.

So I take it anybody who doesn’t suck down the Sukhoi Kool-Aid like a ho at a frat party is a “fanboy” right? :rolleyes: I’d suggest a “fanboy” is one who blindly believes the PAK-FA will dominate all fighter aircraft, will be on time, and lay golden eggs, all without a shred of evidence to back it up. Much like a child believes in Santa Claus. :diablo:

It will dominate all aircraft, one way or another. It’s the most young project and will incorporate the absolute latest fusion of sensors and avionics, and even if it’s slightly less effective than an F-22 solo, which is up for debate, it will be cheaper knowing Russian tech – so a numerical superiority as we all know will dominate anyway.

-40 dBsm = 0.0001 m2 = 1 cm2 = the RCS of metal ball with 1.13 cm in diameter (Marble size)

-30 dBsm = 0.001 m2 = 10 cm2 = the RCS of metal ball with 3.57 cm in diameter (Table tennis ball size)

Best case scenario RCS values then. Completely worthless.

Is it not fair to say, that until it actually flies, that any date given is purely an estimate? Nothing Russophobic in that statement is there? In fact I think there’s a lot less Russophobia than you think. It’s more a reaction to over enthusiasm and unrealistic claims.

Of course it’s fair to say so.

Fact of the matter is, the current estimate are far likely more accurate than ones from 2 years ago. Would you not agree?

I didn’t recall Pogosyan in 2002 making predictions about the project! And it was well under way!