It’s not like BACKFIREs aren’t large radar targets or anything…

Both of those are absurdly stupid ideas. No ICBM is going to be anywhere near close enough to Cuba to be shot down by a GAZELLE site (GORGON is no longer operational). Topol-M? To do what, fire at Hawaii? Topol-M TELs are large, identifiable vehicles that won’t be that hard to locate. A better idea would be low-altitude, high-speed cruise missiles (Meteorit derivative, maybe), or an IRBM. Smaller package, more survivable, harder to locate.

If they really did want to make a statement they’d just put two S-400 batteries in Cuba, one at each end of the island. The portion of the airspace they’d effectively be able to close down would be huge.

Except for the F-22s being currently procured…and the F-35…and a new bomber around 2018…and more C-17s…

Yeah, and 10 Bombers means a hundred more F-22s. Are you thinking about this?

Considering the SS-20 is out of service, the SS-27 makes the most sense. . . Since it’s designed to avoid ABM defenses. . . which is kind of what this whole debacle is about . . .

Unless they want to shoot Florida with the Iskander . . . if it even reaches those last few kilometers. . . You are taking this stupid thread too seriously 😛

You know, if you listen carefully, I think that you could still hear them partying in the Pentagon at this news.

Lets face it any airfield in Cuba operating nuclear capable Russian bombers is going to be saturation TLAM’d and CALCM’d to death very early in any strategic escalation so the actual threat presented by a couple of squadrons of Russian bombers exposed on Cuba is minimal. The shock value of letting the populace know that winged death is sat just across the water waiting to be unleashed is going to authorise many, many more Raptors!.

You sure this is a genuine Russian news piece?

Right, and TLAMs and CALCMs are invisible, and can’t be shot down right?

Also, these bombers can’t fly patrols right? :rolleyes:

It could prove quite effective, though this is almost certainly not going to happen.

Speaking of which, wouldn’t that be interesting if they would end up stationing some Su-35BMs or even some PAK FAs in cuba to support the bombers?

They might as well annex Mexico while they are at it . . .

No it says that Masorin talked about the headline, there is nothing to attribute the bit about Bulava’s parenthood to him at all and if there was you would have produced a direct qoute by now instead of your usual trick of resorting to blind insults.

There is no direct quote unless you dig up exactly what he said on the day this information was given to the press.

There are multiple sources they say this, on different occasions too. Why are you even posting?

“Admiral Vladimir Masorin, commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, said the Bulava-M (SS-NX-30), a naval derivative of the land-based missile Topol (SS-27), had been approved for mass production.”

Oh no! Something quoted from Jane’s say the same thing.

http://www.missilethreat.com/missilesoftheworld/id.158/missile_detail.asp

Odd numbers for fighters I believe…At least for MiG currently at MiG-35

maybe Su-51 to Su-59

Su-27/33/35/37 flankers, Su-31 an aerobatics plane, Su-39 upgraded Su-25
Su-47 Berkut
Su-41/43/45/49 :confused:

Sooo…. maybe Su-5X series?

They didn’t really re-use the Su-35 name, the Su-35BM is a “big modernization / bolshaya modernizatsiya” of the Su-35 – so I can’t say it’s a recycled name.

As for the PAK-FA series designation, we’ll just have to wait and see.

The MOSKVA is also equipped with VULCAN. It test fired those during the latest deployment/exercises in the Atlantic.

I would think that the BAZALT production is terminated and the newer VULCAN has taken over.

I’d be surprised if the the Slavas don’t all get upgraded to the Vulkan, considering they are some of the best heavy ships in the Navy, and the Vulkan seems like a very capable platform (Mach 2.8 / 700KM range / 1000KG warhead).

lawrence I hate to say this man, but you really gotta get your head straight.

You are obsessed with anything Pavel Podvig, and do not accept anything except what you believe is right, even I’m not that stubborn.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060301/43852312.html

More “bad” news about Bulava being based on the SS-27.