Excuse me, you are the one with the history of fantasy. Got a source for Kh-41s in Russian service yet?:rolleyes: Or Kh-22 firing Bears in service?:rolleyes: or for the Kh-65 being in Russian service?:rolleyes:
No one has a problem with opinions unfortunately yours are usually founded in fantasy and not reality and you are a habitual liar. And there has yet to be a single example of you countering successfully anything I have posted so it seems that you do let me get away with it.:rolleyes: It is demonstrative of your character though that the above post contributes nothing to the thread.:rolleyes:
I provided plenty of evidence to back myself up, you just chose not to accept it, and I couldn’t care less. You dug yourself into a hole and made love to Pavel’s website. đ
I’m not in the business of disproving your garbage, if you write me a hefty check and mail it to me, I’ll get right on it. :rolleyes: You must think you are special. Can’t wait for your whiny reply.
Hahaha… not my problem… I don’t use cluster bombs, but then if the US is happy to shoot buildings with DU ammo I can see why it doens’t see any problem with cluster bombs.
Bomb weddings much? đĄ
Hell, look what they did with their OWN people in the Moscow theater.
Right, what would you suggest they have done in that situation?
:rolleyes:
neither me or Sferrin ever said the US is invincible, we were simply mocking the absurdity of the idea that Russia could ‘win’ a nuclear war. You really need to stop lying on this forum, it is a nasty habit that only makes your posts even more worthless than they are already.
There is no way in hell I’m going to let you post some of the garbage you do.
I’m sorry, “sealord,” should I be a little more subtle in my opinions? You know, kind of like you, pretending to actually have a neutral opinion.
More than half of the time you post material you claim is true, but only according to you. Not referring to this thread necessarily.
typical pointless comment from someone who has demonstrated on multiple occasions that he is completely ignorant on the issue of Russian weapons.
The US theatre defence is mobile, it is intended to be forward deployed to places like the middle east and asia where there is a large proliferation of shorter range missiles. Just because Russia is to weak to take its forces beyond its own region it does not mean the US is.
North korea has tried pretty hard to develop a system that can hit the US, the purpose of NMD was not to physically stop an attack by such a system unless it absolutely had to but to remove the diplomatic power that would be granted to such a rogue state by neutralising its potential threat to the US main land.
It was never intended to stop Russia and as far as I am aware no one except for winging brats like you have suggested that it is.
just been demonstrated as wrong.
Yeah, NK is going to suicide attack the US. Grand idea sealord LOL! Did you even graduate from a public high school?
And the only suggestion about Russia was more likely to come from whiny little American “fan boys”, even more ignorant than their current government, who think the US could be invincible with their ABM system, when in fact they won’t be. Not to mention the fact that MAD is still well in place, as mentioned earlier. For NK or some other 3rd world country to attack the US would be an interesting fantasy idea, even for you, considering it would be total suicide for the aggressor. :rolleyes:
And as for whining, you are the #1 whiner along with sferrin the moment the Russians do anything, be it practice bomber patrols or exhibit aggressive or nationalistic behavior. That American flag shrinking or what?
According rather old simulations (for year 2005) including massive counter-value strikes (bombing cities) in both sides, Russia will lose up to 80 million lives (57% population) and US up to 140 million lives (47% lives). I don’t know haw reliable are these numbers but the question that arises is:
-How to declare the “winner” in such war? In % wins US but in lives win Russia. It is obvious that no one wins and better donât try âexperimentation for validating the mathematical modelâ. I will try to re-find and link the article.
Please let us keep discussing the toys rather than discussing âwho winsâ. MAD is still in place.
Of course it is, but sferrin and sealord wake up in the morning with wet pants after dreams of an invincible USA. đ
Just like Russia then.:rolleyes:
It’s predictable that you and sferrin would back each other up, being the biggest die hard American flag wavers here. LOL.
Russia’s system protects its capital, they are not really expanding it, probably because they know it is useless. Theater defense for Russia might make sense. For the US? Please. Yeah, Mexico is attacking soon eh? Take cover.
Considering no one will attack the US (1)
And Russia (and probably China) can make this system useless anyway (2)
It is a well, useless system.
“U.S. officials said Thursday after an internal report on a mistaken shipment to Taiwan of warhead fuses for nuclear missiles pointed substantial blame at the Air Force.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080605/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/air_force_shake_up
Bad.
Daddy let you on the computer again i see, you should be doing your homework not trolling forums Son.
Ironic?
oh please take your childish comments elsewhere dionis, besides i don’t remember any USAF ‘fan boys’ getting to excited at the pancake/saucer shaped SKAT UCAV mock-up, do you?
Hahahaha. . .
Which is a pity. But it still does not mean than the Russkies will not surprise us all in a year or so. I’ll bet (because I know) that the thing will cause quite a stir. From what I know, visually it will be not so spectacular, but if what I know about its capabilities is true – it will be a beast. At least till 2030 or so.
The only thing that would impress the USAF fan boys here is if the the PAK-FA turned out to be a flying metal pancake (saucer?) of some sort, cause that would translate into insane stealth capabilities . . . :rolleyes:
The F-22 will be used to fly into enemy airspace and reduce the defences by taking out the enemy airpower and the enemy air defence network and protect stealth bombers. The PAK-FA is intended to defend airspace from stealthy aircraft including bombers and fighters.
I’m more than positive the PAK-FA is have plenty of “offensive” viability as it’s technically replacing both new and old Flankers. As long as the range class is the same, it would be used to escort Backfires and Fullbacks in the event of an attack on an enemy territory that actually had decent defenses.
I find the light vs heavy (aka F-35 vs F-22) argument somewhat redundant for the PAK-FA.
Considering the price tags of both the F-35 and F-22, it would seem pretty evident that anyone should go with a PAK-FA as an import if it costs half the price of an F-35, or 1/3 of the F-22.
You asked the question and you got the answer, now you are throwing your toys out of the pram because you dont like the answer. That is not my problem but it does show you as the pathetic fanboy child that you are.
Your answer failed miserably. Another 0/10 on your part, but I actually felt bored and replied.
Who said Soviets wanted high-yield SLBM MIRVs?
The ultimate hardened target killer was the SS-18. Period.
Practically, their SLBMs were perfectly sufficient as a deterrent and both were tested or were used with 10 MIRVs.
Tha would be answering the question that you yourself posed, dont get upset just because you dont like the answer.:rolleyes:
Again fanboy, what is your point? And how, except in your paper-only world, are the R-29RM and R-39 actually worse?
Comparing actual nuclear capability, I’d say Russia destroys the US flat out.
SS-18s are unmatched, and those “bad” Russian SLBMs can vaporize US cities anyway. So what’s there to compare?