Thx.
Great range on that thing.
Smerch looks so much more badass 😎
😮 That looks Photoshopped.
A longer ranged version of Oniks would be nice. They’d have more missiles per boat, too.
Just brilliant. No way could just the pipes be an “issue” (if you could even call it that)… gotta be everything else too! Just has to be. :rolleyes:
Those Russian teal cockpits are so unprofessional too… and the PAK-FA color scheme naturally makes it less stealthy than a black B-2 or gray F-22. :rolleyes:
Good stuff. I can’t believe people even bother posting BS like this – so others have to read an entire thread full of garbage to find one good bit of news or information.
It most likely has secret CIA spying equipment on board that will be secretly used against Iran. Nanobots, self-powered RF interception equipment, the works. 😮
Nice attitude you have with anyone who disagree’s with you then, I’m glad we arent friends. 😀
My friends are able to justify their positions with actual evidence and objective discussion instead of Russophobic-wankfest forum debates where one guy has “secret” evidence (armchair LOL-analysis) that what is arguably the world’s most powerful submarine is actually a floating death-box. :rolleyes:
There is nothing I know about, there is nothing you know about, but at least one of those posters (as I stated at the time) quite possibly has information that cannot be posted on an open board.
In both cases though, if those subs arent coated with tiles or some other sound deadening materials, thats a horrible finish on the outer skin.
Low-resolution image for Severodvinsk is another explanation (I think it was a video screenshot). It’s just NOT how you analyze military equipment for any real conclusions.
With regards to the “Western” subs – I think several were still pre-deployment and one was right after, so needed maintenance perhaps.
Mods please lock this – Part 6 is already up.
And posters, why not just move your discussions there?
Trying to safe face, eh? 😀 I actually posted some of the same pics that were linked by Trident, but they were deleted.
I did indeed attack those clowns, they need to get a grip of reality. There was nothing left for me to get out of that place.
The bottom line is there’s nothing gimp about Severodvinsk and the posters on that forum need to get their heads out of their posteriors.
The page where the people making ridiculous assertions move the goal posts, in concert with members of the moderation team? While the poster in question may actually have military experience and access to non-public info that is of zero relevance here. He did NOT cite anything of that nature but did precisely what that Clampipe guy seems to have accused him of – armchair analysis based on a few small internet photos. And he didn’t even do it particularly well, considering how he went so far as to say he’d never seen anything like it on a Western sub. You demonstrably don’t have to look particularly hard (and without resorting to classified material :rolleyes:) to find proof that this is, at best, a massive double standard.
Moral of the story: even military personnel have opinions, biases and are fallible.
That and I posted pics of Western subs looking even “rougher” – and of course the excuses flew that the Western subs were just fine 😉
Btw, can anyone guess the # of TRMs on this beast? Count?
Flateric beat me to it. 😛
lol, what the hell do Australians know about nuclear attack sub production? Severodvinsk is more impressive than anything military that’s ever come out of Australia. 😮
No offense to the Ausies around here.
Worldwide military intelligence agencies man, worldwide military intelligence agencies. 😎 Better than the CIA.
Ahh.. that’s such a mouthful. Hell, my head started to hurt just thinking those words. 🙁
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/articles/20111201.aspx
^ A must read, from today! 😀 I suppose I wasn’t missing much.
The DefenseTalk link is in my previous post.
Do you by chance have that link? Sounds hilarious.
Let me try to dig it up. It’s in the Navy thread on that forum.
They banned me shortly after I ridiculed them and some ‘hot shot’ posters on there :rolleyes:
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Indigo.. what’s the deal with Strategypages (I don’t ever use it) :p
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Starts here TR:
http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/navy-maritime/russian-navy-discussions-updates-8178-18/
“have a recovery team on standby”. . . :rolleyes:
StevoJH or whatever, dorkasaurus on this forum, also contributed some gems. Albeit with more flair since it was a Russophobic orgy forum. 😀
Whaddya know, TR? Severodvinsk didn’t sink yet.. against all of the warnings of the “pros” on DefenseTalk forums. :rolleyes:
I’ll never forget that gem. 😀
all your own assumptions rooted in your superiority complex
Just a small edit. 😎