No I have proven you wrong yet again because you are completely ignorant about Russian weapons. The radarhas never been offered to any customer in a ready state thus we can assume that it is not a realistic option now that the Zhuk-AE is ongoing.

I notice that once again you have failed to provide sources or show any capacity to evaluate them.

You are a tool sir. Please stop posting. You are making a fuss about the letters E and F (right next to each other on a keyboard, by the way), so please stop your little girl tantrum now.

Provide what sources? Are you a broken record Laurence?

I was asking Flex how a F-16 Block 50/52 was any better than a MiG-29SMT with a Zhuk-M or F radar (or AE, now it seems, assuming the “F” PESA project is totally canceled, which is NOT clear, OR RELEVANT).

So please, stop being an idiot, and stop posting.

Well at the time of break up Russian had 95 SS-24 ICBM( Silo/Rail) , which were relatively new i.e deployed in very late 80’s and their first solid fuel , very advanced ICBM , with 10 MIRV + decoys i.e 4 Tons payload and 10000 km range.

Its very mysterious to say the least that they just opted to deactivate the SS-24 which were mobile and difficult to detect and kept their old silo based SS-18/19 liquid fuel ICBM , although these were also dependent on Ukranian assistance.

The latest case is where Russian has signed an agreement with Ukranian to maintain their SS-18 Heavy ICBM.

And they would in a hurry destroy/deactivate all their new SS-24 ?

The RS-24 is like a poor mans choice to MIRV Topol-M , its not a medium or heavy ICBM , but a stop gap solution.

The achieve this ( it can be mirvd from 3 – 6 warhwad ) at the cost of reducing the penaids.

What are you talking about?

The RS-24 is being developed to be larger than the Topol-M, and with advanced anti ballistic missile defense capabilities. It will be the staple ground ICBM alongside the mobile Topol-M in the future.

I have a lead over you in that I can actually provide sources.:rolleyes:

No it was tested on a Mig-29SMT. I have yet to see any evidence that it was actually offered and the fact that it has not been ordered by anybody does rather suggest that it was never offered. There are multiple levels of possible. The overriding point was that you know nothing about Russian airborne radars just like you know nothing about Russian missiles or the Russian Navy.

Yeah and your US flag waving fanboy bias is really good, you sure know a lot about giving someone the benefit of the doubt, other than the grandiose US military. What a tool you are. . . :rolleyes: Just because your logical thinking is about a complete failure doesn’t mean other people can’t think through sources a little better than you. You need everything in bold print on Jane’s. . .

It was tested on the SMT, and no one bought the Zhuk-F, again, what is your point? That it doesn’t exist? Because it does, it’s just not in active service. You are making a fuss over the letters “F” and “E” .

Why the Russian scrapped the silo/rail mobile SS-24 ICBM ? I was looking into the program and specs ,This 100 Ton beast is as good as the US Land Based Peacekeeper ICBM with 10 MIRV .

Well if the Ukrainian connection is the reason then there are other operational missile in Russian inventory which needed Ukranian assistance like SS-18 and SS-19

It was the reduction treaty with the US and Russia I think, that limits them to 5,000 – something warheads?

give it another 3 or 4 years and the images might leak at the rate its progressing, first flight within a year you say, havn’t they been saying that for the past 6 years? :confused:

The only time any images are going to leak is when there’s an actual aircraft to take photos of I imagine, in the air or on the ground.

I don’t think there’s ever been a claim about the jet being in the air earlier than 2007, and most sources have pointed to 2008 / 2009 for air testing and 2011 – 2013 for full active service. Considering the project has been funded 100%, as someone from the Russian military said.. “it’s about not making any mistakes,” they might as well get it right like they did with the Flanker.

I doubt Hugo would want to wait 10 or 15 years for thr PAK-FA to arrive… even he’s not that daft

Except that the jet will be flying within a year, and probably in service by 2014 or so.

Question is when are images going to leak.

If you can get that from that then you really do need help with your reading.

Right back at you. :rolleyes: