Of which there aren’t many. Go to my blog, pull the SAM site file, and load it in GE. Then open the blog article on Russian Strategic Aviation in Imagery. Notice how a lot of the bases are, for lack of a better term, undefended.

These, however, are places you should not try and fly into: Moscow, Kaliningrad, Vladivostok, Petropavlovsk, the Kola Peninsula. Hell, even the ICBM fields aren’t really SAM-defended.

Why bother with an F-111 when we could apparently have just used Cessnas?

Any sneak attack by the US on Russia will result in the US getting turned into a crystal ball.

Anything escalating will let the airbases either scramble their jets or pull up the SAMs. You should know, pretty well I might add, that all Soviet/Russian SAMs are highly mobile.

No idea what you’re trying to say.

You said there would be “no 2nd of 3rd wave” because the bomber bases would be “smoking holes.”

I said, that’s really debatable unless the US goes nuclear.

If the US does go nuclear, may the good lord help them.

Yes,
The aircraft flew the route into the Beaufort Sea and turn around at Banks Island. What you are relying on is hyped news reporting. Think about it? It is the responsibility of both civilian and military to track traffic as they enter such areas of responsibility. Think of an aircraft transiting that airspace with no transponder active?

All I’m seeing is the US was saying “We’ll investigate this” – not “We actually did intercept them”

And even if they did, for which I see no evidence whatsoever, it was likely far too late.

Attacking the US with conventional weapons. . .well it’d be kindof a waste as they still wouldn’t be likely to last more than one mission as they’d be one of the higher priority targets. Doubt they’d be able to accomplish anything significant before they were gone. Look at the amount of bombs dropped on dinky little Iraq over the years with no effective air defenses. Conventionally bombing the US is a fantasy. Sure you could drop a few bombs but the effect wouldn’t be much more than stiring up the hornet’s nest.

Referring to the Russian bomber bases here, not the other way around.

to be a bit more fair to them its not really incompetence on the part of the Russian crews as much as it is the limit of technology. I dont imagine that the US navy could find and intercept any ship all that much faster.

You are literally looking for a needle in a gigantic blue, cold and very wet haystack. They were hunting the Kuz so its not as if they were radioed exact coordinates for him — they had to do all the work. 3 hours just shows you how challenging a task it can be under the VERY BEST of conditions. My source for all this is vesti and zvezdannews. You are all free to browse their websites for the clips I’m talking about from the exercise.

The weather was so bad they never actually saw the Kuz from any window on the Tu’s they only knew he was there from radar.

An additional question to discuss is just how long does it take to get a A-50 airborne. Those analog electronics (vacuum tubes) on it take 2 hours!!!! just to turn on and you cant do this in the air apparently it has to be done on the ground. Just sortieing their airborne radars in a timely fashion in a shooting war will be a challenge.

At this rate, you might as well question how ready are the US naval forces for a Russian anti shipping attack? Do they routinely practice against specific simulated Russian targets? And just how brave and clear headed are US sailors in the face of hundreds of missiles heading towards them?

The pilot of the Su-15, Osipovich, has already fessed up to the falsification of the said transmissions. Osipovich was after the event made to record the radio traffic. In a TV interview he even revealed that to simulate radio static an electric shaver was used while he made the invented radio comms.

You beat me to it! Another one of those bits of information that dionis really should know.:rolleyes:

I’m referring to Flight 902.

And in either case, they need to learn to follow proper flight paths.

Staying in Soviet airspace that long would have been a really bad idea.

Agree.

They just shot first. They seemed to prefer airliners and unarmed western intelligence aircraft (remember the Swedish C-47?) over international airspace or that strayed across the east german border.

Wonder what he’d do if the situation was reversed…and a Tu-95 was shot down by the UK or Japan?

Korean idiot pilots need to learn to respond on radio.

When the Russians are intercepted, they turn back. :rolleyes:

The Kh-101 should be in service already, just the nuclear Kh-102 is under development.

The Russians claimed bombers (I believe Blackjacks, not Bears) did penetrate US airspace without being detected within the last 12 months. Let me find the article if I can.

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Russian_Bombers_Flew_Undetected_Across_Arctic.html

Here we go.